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Although a step in the right direction, without restrictions on commercial fishing it feels like lip service.

melling 4y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/china-fishing-south-america.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch... “With its own coastal waters depleted, China has built a global fishing operation unmatched by any other country.”
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- dirtyid 4y ago
  >unmatched by any other country The worlds largest country with largest ship construction capability has the biggest fleet. PRC distant fleet _underfishes_ per capita, especially relative to JP (3X more than PRC), SKR & ES (7x), TW (30x ~). All with their own subsidies and suspicious behaviours in others EEZs. At end of day, PRC with 1/5 of world population and relatively small EEZ is entitled to fish in international waters. Like emissions, it's the per capita that matters. Entire PRC overfishing propaganda is US driven narrative to forward deploy coast guards against PRC interests. There's a reason why these articles never headlines with US east asian partners being significantly worst overfishers. In the meantime, no reason PRC fishermen or consumers should take a hit until others cut down to PRC levels.
  - Avicebron 4y ago
    Per capita doesn't matter in this context, because the earth isn't infinitely expanding resource wise, it's the net removed at any given time that matters.
    - dirtyid 4y ago
      The enviroment and biosphere will recover / regenerate in some form even if humans destroy everything and drive themselves to extinction. Sustainablity is an anthropocene problem, and just like climate, per capita is the only thing that matters for geopolitics if the world wants to reach an accord. No party is going to accede to less share of global commons, how humans share global resource stocks is downstream of politics.
  - splistud 4y ago
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/china-fishing-south-america.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch... “With its own coastal waters depleted, China has built a global fishing operation unmatched by any other country.”

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dirtyid 4y ago
>unmatched by any other country The worlds largest country with largest ship construction capability has the biggest fleet. PRC distant fleet _underfishes_ per capita, especially relative to JP (3X more than PRC), SKR & ES (7x), TW (30x ~). All with their own subsidies and suspicious behaviours in others EEZs. At end of day, PRC with 1/5 of world population and relatively small EEZ is entitled to fish in international waters. Like emissions, it's the per capita that matters. Entire PRC overfishing propaganda is US driven narrative to forward deploy coast guards against PRC interests. There's a reason why these articles never headlines with US east asian partners being significantly worst overfishers. In the meantime, no reason PRC fishermen or consumers should take a hit until others cut down to PRC levels.
- Avicebron 4y ago
  Per capita doesn't matter in this context, because the earth isn't infinitely expanding resource wise, it's the net removed at any given time that matters.
  - dirtyid 4y ago
    The enviroment and biosphere will recover / regenerate in some form even if humans destroy everything and drive themselves to extinction. Sustainablity is an anthropocene problem, and just like climate, per capita is the only thing that matters for geopolitics if the world wants to reach an accord. No party is going to accede to less share of global commons, how humans share global resource stocks is downstream of politics.
- splistud 4y ago
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