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> If we don't, we screw over everyone working their asses off to change the world. I work at a non-profit and wouldn't dare to utter these words to any employe

by elkos 4y ago

> If we don't, we screw over everyone working their asses off to change the world. I work at a non-profit and wouldn't dare to utter these words to any employee. I understand believing what you preach, but actually saying you work on "changing the world" in an internal email seems very problematic? Is it just me?

mabbo 4y ago
Well, to be fair he didn't specify that they were changing the world in a positive way.
- ditonal 4y ago
  He actually did when he says they have too much “social good” to build.
ramraj07 4y ago
They did absolutely change the world in a significant manner though. Time and again! Just not in the direction Mark openly hoped for.
irishloop 4y ago
Honestly think this is quite common at the CEO level. I swear it's like a requirement, founders have to be a little bit deluded into thinking they're changing the world and not just... starting a business.
- gretch 4y ago
  There’s a survival selection process. The ceo founders who did not believe it in their bones failed very early on. Because honestly you have to be a little bit insane to take on that much risk and uncertainty (not to say it’s a good thing, the other 999/1000 who also believed don’t go anywhere)
chitowneats 4y ago
Facebook most certainly changed the world. The result was not good from my perspective. You can justify phrases like "social good" in a lot of different ways. Which is why you should always be skeptical of such claims.
endisneigh 4y ago
Why is it problematic?
- UberFly 4y ago
  Right, it's hardly seems problematic. Just the usual cliche. I mean besides changing the world, I'm sure his employees are giving 110% and thinking outside the box and totally being transformational.
deltree7 4y ago
Non Profits rarely have the kind of impact Google/Facebook/Microsoft/Amazon/Apple on the world. It's not even comparable. Billions have lives have changed due to these corps, while your Non Profit may affect 100s
NotYourLawyer 4y ago
I don’t understand this comment at all. Lots of executives talk like that. Why would it be “problematic” (ugh)?
eastbound 4y ago
> Actually saying you work on “changing the world” in an internal email seems very problematic? Is it just me? Yes it’s problematic. No, it was the usual thing to say back in 2010, it was normal. My unicorn adopted the value “We advance humanity, through the power of software” in 2013 and that triggered me quitting and relinquishing half my stock options. I was a problematic employee so it was a winwin for them, but nonetheless it was a fucking gross thing to say, especially with the videoclip of a girl limping in Africa, for which we made the software that helped the developer that helped the doctor that helped the little girl getting stilts. We don’t advance humanity, we get overpaid from large corporation margins for outputting good software, with a sidenote of donating 1% for the greater good. It’s not even open-source. That’s fucking extremely gross and inappropriate to say that’s advancing humanity. It lacks humility. To their credit, they didn’t prolong the campaign and I’ve never heard them say it ever since 2013. I still have this ad in my new startup. In the toilet. To remind people to take care of their family before the corporation. Social fabric is what ties humans together, not our software.

by elkos 4y ago

mabbo 4y ago

Well, to be fair he didn't specify that they were changing the world in a positive way.

ditonal 4y ago
He actually did when he says they have too much “social good” to build.

ramraj07 4y ago

They did absolutely change the world in a significant manner though. Time and again! Just not in the direction Mark openly hoped for.

irishloop 4y ago

Honestly think this is quite common at the CEO level. I swear it's like a requirement, founders have to be a little bit deluded into thinking they're changing the world and not just... starting a business.

gretch 4y ago
There’s a survival selection process. The ceo founders who did not believe it in their bones failed very early on. Because honestly you have to be a little bit insane to take on that much risk and uncertainty (not to say it’s a good thing, the other 999/1000 who also believed don’t go anywhere)

chitowneats 4y ago

Facebook most certainly changed the world. The result was not good from my perspective. You can justify phrases like "social good" in a lot of different ways. Which is why you should always be skeptical of such claims.

endisneigh 4y ago

Why is it problematic?

UberFly 4y ago
Right, it's hardly seems problematic. Just the usual cliche. I mean besides changing the world, I'm sure his employees are giving 110% and thinking outside the box and totally being transformational.

deltree7 4y ago

Non Profits rarely have the kind of impact Google/Facebook/Microsoft/Amazon/Apple on the world. It's not even comparable. Billions have lives have changed due to these corps, while your Non Profit may affect 100s

NotYourLawyer 4y ago

I don’t understand this comment at all. Lots of executives talk like that. Why would it be “problematic” (ugh)?

eastbound 4y ago

> Actually saying you work on “changing the world” in an internal email seems very problematic? Is it just me? Yes it’s problematic. No, it was the usual thing to say back in 2010, it was normal. My unicorn adopted the value “We advance humanity, through the power of software” in 2013 and that triggered me quitting and relinquishing half my stock options. I was a problematic employee so it was a winwin for them, but nonetheless it was a fucking gross thing to say, especially with the videoclip of a girl limping in Africa, for which we made the software that helped the developer that helped the doctor that helped the little girl getting stilts. We don’t advance humanity, we get overpaid from large corporation margins for outputting good software, with a sidenote of donating 1% for the greater good. It’s not even open-source. That’s fucking extremely gross and inappropriate to say that’s advancing humanity. It lacks humility. To their credit, they didn’t prolong the campaign and I’ve never heard them say it ever since 2013. I still have this ad in my new startup. In the toilet. To remind people to take care of their family before the corporation. Social fabric is what ties humans together, not our software.