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It was easy to do all that because he actively put his thumb on the scale for the Republicans. > “We believe it would be much better for GOP to win.” https://

It was easy to do all that because he actively put his thumb on the scale for the Republicans. > “We believe it would be much better for GOP to win.” https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinton-trump/ https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks...

bakuninsbart 4y ago
I wonder where his animosity towards Hillary Clinton came from, I guess we will never know.
- kornhole 4y ago
  Imagine the amount of documents they reviewed from the cable leaks to the emails and more. If anybody had the most information from which to judge how dangerous a leader would be, it was probably Julian. He did want to impede the war machine by sharing truth to the world, but the volume of data could not be absorbed by most.
- dontlaugh 4y ago
  Maybe butchering Libyans has something to do with it? Or even just her husband cutting welfare? Both US parties are neoliberal war hawks, sadly.
kornhole 4y ago
In context of limiting the amount of war upon the rest of world, it is hard for me to disagree. Although the foreign policy is not much different between the party sides, the Democratic party is historically and continues to be the more war party. Look at the votes for sending $117B to Ukraine. The Democrats voted unanimously for it.
- namdnay 4y ago
  I think the point of the Ukraine aid is to limit the amount of war being waged on the Ukrainians...
  - kornhole 4y ago
    Then why has Biden never had any talks with Putin to help broker peace talks, and why did the US and UK block the agreement brokered by former Israeli PM Bennet between Russia and Ukraine?
    - giantrobot 4y ago
      As we've seen since 2014, Russian "peace" overtures are "give us everything and you get nothing". They've also repeatedly proven that they won't honor agreements. They unilaterally broke the Minsk accords just last year with their invasion of Ukraine. There's no utility in "peace" talks with a dishonest party. All it does is provide the dishonest party with ammunition for propaganda. When the other side balls at their ridiculous demands they run to the press with "look how unreasonable the other side is being!"
      - dontlaugh 4y ago
        The Ukrainian state has been breaking the Minsk accords for almost as long as they’ve each been in place, most blatantly by bombing the Donbas. Not that this would justify invasion of Ukraine proper, but let’s not pretend this has ever been one-sided. Wars end through peace agreements. Deliberately preventing them is what war mongers do.
        giantrobot 4y ago
        > Wars end through peace agreements. Deliberately preventing them is what war mongers do. What agreement could Ukraine possibly make with Russia? Previously Russia demanded Ukraine, a sovereign nation, be constrained by what treaties they could make or how they govern themselves. They've also been meddling in their internal affairs for decades culminating with the annexation of Crimea when Ukrainians decided to vote out the Russian supported/friendly president. Russia can make peace any time they want by withdrawing from Ukraine. Ukraine didn't invade Russia or make war on them. The war monger in this whole affair is a short guy that lives in Moscow.
        4y ago
- jamincan 4y ago
  Yes, and famously Roosevelt sent aid to and eventually joined Allied forces in Europe instead of being an uncompromising advocate for peace.

bakuninsbart 4y ago

I wonder where his animosity towards Hillary Clinton came from, I guess we will never know.

kornhole 4y ago
Imagine the amount of documents they reviewed from the cable leaks to the emails and more. If anybody had the most information from which to judge how dangerous a leader would be, it was probably Julian. He did want to impede the war machine by sharing truth to the world, but the volume of data could not be absorbed by most.
dontlaugh 4y ago
Maybe butchering Libyans has something to do with it? Or even just her husband cutting welfare? Both US parties are neoliberal war hawks, sadly.

kornhole 4y ago

In context of limiting the amount of war upon the rest of world, it is hard for me to disagree. Although the foreign policy is not much different between the party sides, the Democratic party is historically and continues to be the more war party. Look at the votes for sending $117B to Ukraine. The Democrats voted unanimously for it.

namdnay 4y ago
I think the point of the Ukraine aid is to limit the amount of war being waged on the Ukrainians...
- kornhole 4y ago
  Then why has Biden never had any talks with Putin to help broker peace talks, and why did the US and UK block the agreement brokered by former Israeli PM Bennet between Russia and Ukraine?
  - giantrobot 4y ago
    As we've seen since 2014, Russian "peace" overtures are "give us everything and you get nothing". They've also repeatedly proven that they won't honor agreements. They unilaterally broke the Minsk accords just last year with their invasion of Ukraine. There's no utility in "peace" talks with a dishonest party. All it does is provide the dishonest party with ammunition for propaganda. When the other side balls at their ridiculous demands they run to the press with "look how unreasonable the other side is being!"
    - dontlaugh 4y ago
      The Ukrainian state has been breaking the Minsk accords for almost as long as they’ve each been in place, most blatantly by bombing the Donbas. Not that this would justify invasion of Ukraine proper, but let’s not pretend this has ever been one-sided. Wars end through peace agreements. Deliberately preventing them is what war mongers do.
      - giantrobot 4y ago
        > Wars end through peace agreements. Deliberately preventing them is what war mongers do. What agreement could Ukraine possibly make with Russia? Previously Russia demanded Ukraine, a sovereign nation, be constrained by what treaties they could make or how they govern themselves. They've also been meddling in their internal affairs for decades culminating with the annexation of Crimea when Ukrainians decided to vote out the Russian supported/friendly president. Russia can make peace any time they want by withdrawing from Ukraine. Ukraine didn't invade Russia or make war on them. The war monger in this whole affair is a short guy that lives in Moscow.
      - 4y ago
jamincan 4y ago
Yes, and famously Roosevelt sent aid to and eventually joined Allied forces in Europe instead of being an uncompromising advocate for peace.