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We should minimize our eco-footprint with high density living, not subsidizing high environmental impact lifestyles. How does the rural folk having high speed
by itake 4y ago
We should minimize our eco-footprint with high density living, not subsidizing high environmental impact lifestyles.
How does the rural folk having high speed internet benefit society?
- nibbleshifter 4y agoEnjoy starving to death then.
- lmm 4y agoIf farmers feel their lifestyle isn't good enough in proportion to the work they do, they should raise the prices of the food they sell, not get paid by the backdoor through subsidies.
- ghaff 4y agoLet's cut off their electricity and phone too and forcibly relocate them. It's not like other countries haven't done that in the past. /s
- itake 4y agoRural people need reliable access to power for farming.
- SamReidHughes 4y agoWe can just make them pay for it instead of mooching off everybody else.
- oatmeal1 4y agoExactly. People in this thread are perfectly happy to throw unknown heaps of other people's money at the problem until it is solved. And it's not like the government has a track record of efficiently spending money in the first place.
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- scatters 4y agoWhen? I can't think of any examples of forced rural-urban migration other than the Highland Clearances in the UK, which isn't really comparable.
- paradox460 4y agoPol pot did it in Cambodia
- scatters 4y agoThat was urban-rural migration.
- vb6sp6 4y ago[dead]
- ThrowawayTestr 4y agoSomeone's gotta grow the food. Our farmers deserve Netflix.
- elcritch 4y agoAnd eDoctor visits, farmer forums, IoT data services, banking, accounting apps, etc
- scatters 4y agoOr perhaps they deserve to be treated like adults and decide for themselves what infrastructure they want to pay for.
- bumby 4y agoI think the larger point is that guaranteeing access ensures they have the opportunity to make that choice.
- compiler-guy 4y agoA great idea! A terrific plan like this needs a clever name. We could call it the Great Leap Forward, or maybe the Cultural Revolution.
- scatters 4y agoNeither of those had anything to do with moving people from the countryside into the cities, as far as I'm aware. The Chinese Communist Party is still trying to suppress rural-urban migration (e.g., via hukou).
- JaimeThompson 4y agoHow do the food, livestock, minerals, and wood that grows in rural areas benefit society?
- itake 4y agoThose are priced into the economy. The value the cities provide is transferred to rural for food, livestock, and minerals. Handing rural people an extra $50k in addition of the payment for the goods ands services to install the infrastructure doesn't seem right to me.
- gameman144 4y ago> How does the rural folk having high speed internet benefit society? How does an urban population having high speed internet benefit society? Whatever your answer, that's the benefit for rural folks too.
- edmundsauto 4y agoOne difference is that urban areas get that benefit with lower cost due to the inherent scaling available in dense population. The benefit might be the same, the cost is not. I’d argue the isolated benefit is the same, but the network effect amplifies it. When a ton of people do music together, it becomes part of the culture. That effect is more difficult to scale in low density populations, which means their rate of improvement is probably lower.
- gameman144 4y ago> When a ton of people do music together, it becomes part of the culture. I can't think of a better reason to subsidize the additional cost for rural broadband: without it, there is no nationally accessible "culture" that unifies us.
- bumby 4y agoThe utility market is generally a regulated monopoly. The market and govt both recognized the economies of scale with public infrastructure. As part of the tradeoff to be allowed to operate as a monopoly, utilities must also ensure rural or unprofitable customers still receive access. It’s all part of the deal and intrinsically tied to your point.