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Not all people. There is a division of people here. People able to rationally see the consequences of a new technology. And people who have to bend their perce

Not all people. There is a division of people here. People able to rationally see the consequences of a new technology. And people who have to bend their perception of reality to protect a vested interest. For software engineers the skills and attributes we take pride in are our software craft and our intelligence. So it's normal to see that the attacks on AI are especially vicious on HN. I'd say the division is about 50 50. Gpt4 will not replace us. But it's a herald for something that will. That is reality.

geraneum 4y ago
> But it's a herald for something that will. That is reality. This is mostly what the people who described as “rational” say all the time, but there’s no rationality or even a deep conversation about what to do if this happens. I can flip a coin and it will half of the times tell me that it’s the end! Both of this camps are arguing like political sides and the conversation is usually a repeated instance of some beliefs on both sides. I believe, instead, we can talk about the practical ways we can deal with this change. For example we can start with looking at what other fields that got automated did. Unions? Regulations? Wild west? Free market capitalism? Monopolies? What? Or we can discuss how to take advantage of this new change. Just sayin…
- HervalFreire 4y ago
  How can we talk about what you're suggesting when half of the people don't even believe such a change will ever happen?
  - geraneum 4y ago
    People who believe such a change will happen, are in the position to lead the conversation in my opinion. This is not the first impactful change in history. It's not even clear if it's the biggest one and as any other change, people who have a rational understanding of it are in a better position to propose solutions to the problems it brings. There is another problem though, which is very important to note. As much as this change is impactful, there are so much nonsense and bulsh*t going around it because some people are financially invested. Sometimes people make statements without revealing their true intentions. I imagine, that a person who is right now, integrating ChatGPT into something and dreaming about getting rich fast, is not gonna believe into whatever cautionary tail others tell. This specific aspect of the current hype, unlike the actual product, is dramatically similar to the crypto hype. It doesn't help either. Edit: fix typo

geraneum 4y ago

> But it's a herald for something that will. That is reality. This is mostly what the people who described as “rational” say all the time, but there’s no rationality or even a deep conversation about what to do if this happens. I can flip a coin and it will half of the times tell me that it’s the end! Both of this camps are arguing like political sides and the conversation is usually a repeated instance of some beliefs on both sides. I believe, instead, we can talk about the practical ways we can deal with this change. For example we can start with looking at what other fields that got automated did. Unions? Regulations? Wild west? Free market capitalism? Monopolies? What? Or we can discuss how to take advantage of this new change. Just sayin…

HervalFreire 4y ago
How can we talk about what you're suggesting when half of the people don't even believe such a change will ever happen?
- geraneum 4y ago
  People who believe such a change will happen, are in the position to lead the conversation in my opinion. This is not the first impactful change in history. It's not even clear if it's the biggest one and as any other change, people who have a rational understanding of it are in a better position to propose solutions to the problems it brings. There is another problem though, which is very important to note. As much as this change is impactful, there are so much nonsense and bulsh*t going around it because some people are financially invested. Sometimes people make statements without revealing their true intentions. I imagine, that a person who is right now, integrating ChatGPT into something and dreaming about getting rich fast, is not gonna believe into whatever cautionary tail others tell. This specific aspect of the current hype, unlike the actual product, is dramatically similar to the crypto hype. It doesn't help either. Edit: fix typo