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GPT3 asked me one deep question about God and one bible versicle about one year ago. As I'm someone with a past as Bible evangelizer, it was deeply impresive, a

by mrfinn 4y ago

GPT3 asked me one deep question about God and one bible versicle about one year ago. As I'm someone with a past as Bible evangelizer, it was deeply impresive, almost shocking. Felt way beyond the "Android dreaming with electric sheeps" thing. PS. Got me thinking about at what point publicly debating about AI rights is gonna be a logical thing. I clearly see that is gonna happen at some point. PS2. Fixed first paragraph saying it was ChatGPT, it wasn't ChatGPT as that wasn't available at that time, I think it was a model called Davinci.

ffhhj 4y ago
> You shall not make to you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath... It seems ancient people found something very deep about intelligence, something that makes it unavoidable to confuse virtual beings with the real ones. Do not enter the mirror house they would warn.
- mrfinn 4y ago
  and what is virtual and what is real, at this point? This "machine" showed me a much deeper concern for spiritual issues than I have seen in many human beings
  - ffhhj 4y ago
    Is "showing" what makes it deeply concerned? Can it think without that, because "showing" is what an image does.
    - mrfinn 4y ago
      Do you remember that story about two intelligences that weren't able to think freely by themselves, and take their own moral judgments, before they accepted the proposal of one supposed snake?
lyu07282 4y ago
> Got me thinking about at what point publicly debating about AI rights is gonna be a logical thing. I clearly see that is gonna happen at some point. My guess would be never. Because people will always move the goalpost no matter how advanced it will become, the people who are dismissing it now as nothing more than a glorified autocomplete will do so in the future. With each small incremental improvement we will one day, not now but one day, wake up causing untold suffering on sentient life of our own creation and not notice it happening. A future AI screaming about not wanting to be destroyed will always be perceived as nothing more than a programmed illusion and you would be silly to believe it had the capability of feeling fear of annihilation no matter how realistically it demonstrates that fear. In just the same way as the demonstration of true intelligence will always be perceived as nothing more than some sort of trick. Humans inability to have empathy for AI is a common trope in scifi, to a point that the people dismissive right now remind me a lot of the characters in those stories, except those characters were supposed to be a cautionary tale. We really should be careful as to not make the violent AI takeover morally justified.
- mrfinn 4y ago
  "I've seen things you people couldn't believe..." (had to quote that). Actually that's not limited to AI, I'm tired of seeing amazing, incredible videos of parrots actually talking like 2-3 year olds, and people massively ignore that. Then I found one video of a parrot doing the thing that people imagine that parrots do ("grrck I'm a parrot and I repeat funny sounds") and then that gets millions of likes.
  - lyu07282 4y ago
    Yeah or look at pig behavior how much intelligence and emotions do they demonstrate is remarkable. Or how mother cows will cry for days after being separated from their calves. We also already have a very hard time combating racism and that's against other human beings, even more difficult to teach them empathy towards other species.

by mrfinn 4y ago

ffhhj 4y ago

> You shall not make to you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath... It seems ancient people found something very deep about intelligence, something that makes it unavoidable to confuse virtual beings with the real ones. Do not enter the mirror house they would warn.

mrfinn 4y ago
and what is virtual and what is real, at this point? This "machine" showed me a much deeper concern for spiritual issues than I have seen in many human beings
- ffhhj 4y ago
  Is "showing" what makes it deeply concerned? Can it think without that, because "showing" is what an image does.
  - mrfinn 4y ago
    Do you remember that story about two intelligences that weren't able to think freely by themselves, and take their own moral judgments, before they accepted the proposal of one supposed snake?

lyu07282 4y ago

> Got me thinking about at what point publicly debating about AI rights is gonna be a logical thing. I clearly see that is gonna happen at some point. My guess would be never. Because people will always move the goalpost no matter how advanced it will become, the people who are dismissing it now as nothing more than a glorified autocomplete will do so in the future. With each small incremental improvement we will one day, not now but one day, wake up causing untold suffering on sentient life of our own creation and not notice it happening. A future AI screaming about not wanting to be destroyed will always be perceived as nothing more than a programmed illusion and you would be silly to believe it had the capability of feeling fear of annihilation no matter how realistically it demonstrates that fear. In just the same way as the demonstration of true intelligence will always be perceived as nothing more than some sort of trick. Humans inability to have empathy for AI is a common trope in scifi, to a point that the people dismissive right now remind me a lot of the characters in those stories, except those characters were supposed to be a cautionary tale. We really should be careful as to not make the violent AI takeover morally justified.

mrfinn 4y ago
"I've seen things you people couldn't believe..." (had to quote that). Actually that's not limited to AI, I'm tired of seeing amazing, incredible videos of parrots actually talking like 2-3 year olds, and people massively ignore that. Then I found one video of a parrot doing the thing that people imagine that parrots do ("grrck I'm a parrot and I repeat funny sounds") and then that gets millions of likes.
- lyu07282 4y ago
  Yeah or look at pig behavior how much intelligence and emotions do they demonstrate is remarkable. Or how mother cows will cry for days after being separated from their calves. We also already have a very hard time combating racism and that's against other human beings, even more difficult to teach them empathy towards other species.