>How you ought to live depends heavily upon the axioms you choose, and the axioms that do not coincide with nature and physics are often foolish. How are you d

>How you ought to live depends heavily upon the axioms you choose, and the axioms that do not coincide with nature and physics are often foolish. How are you defining "natural"? We treated each other, and animals, pretty horribly for centuries. This was 'natural'. Then we reasoned about what makes for the kinds of societies where the most number of people can flourish. Certainly not natural, nor foolish.