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Price discrimination is illegal in the EU: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/pricing-payments/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/c

by eterm 4y ago

Price discrimination is illegal in the EU: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/pricing-payments/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/pri... You have to have a single price for goods across the EU, so you shouldn't have a "very dynamic price" depending on their country. Unfortunately this doesn't cover "licensing", at least not yet.

therealmarv 4y ago
I think you are missing an important detail here: "When you buy goods online in the EU, prices may vary from country to country or across different versions of the same website, for example due to differences in delivery costs. However, if you buy goods online WITHOUT cross-border delivery you should have access to the same prices and special offers as buyers living in that EU country" So when cross-border delivery is done (this is fulfilled by electronic submitting even) I can charge different prices for different countries. All people with IP from country X get the same price. Country Y can have a different price. Same price among all countries in Europe cannot be true... you even have different prices on Amazon stores in Europe like amazon.de amazon.fr amazon.it amazon.es on same goods from the very same warehouse etc. Other example Netflix or Youtube Premium subscriptions, they are also not the same price among whole EU (for example Denmark vs. Bulgaria)
somenameforme 4y ago
I am fairly certain that you're misreading that, though as with all regulations - having a legal team on standby is practically a requirement. It's talking about literal in-country discrimination. For example many touristy locations will have a price for locals and a price for non-locals at places like e.g. zoos. That would be illegal in the EU. By contrast it explicitly states that: "When you buy goods online in the EU, prices may vary [their emphasis, not mine] from country to country or across different versions of the same website, for example due to differences in delivery costs." A nice rule of thumb for translating legalese is to translate "may" to "will" (except when it would benefit you), and to strip off examples. So for instance: "We may share your data, for instance with trusted partners or in response to legal obligations." translates to "We will share your data with whoever we want." And here too you can translate it to simply, "Prices will vary from country to country."
- eterm 4y ago
  The example they give is someone from Denmark buying something in Spain, so I'm not sure where you've got the idea of it being an "in-country" rule from.
  - somenameforme 4y ago
    The point of the regulation is to prevent things like charging foreigners more products or services that will be consumed in-country. The example covers the scenario of "Well what if I'm in a different country than a vendor making a purchase (in which case it is okay for the vendor to charge more), but what I am purchasing will be obtained/'consumed' in the country of the vendor (in which case it is not okay for the vendor to charge more)?" And in that case it's also against the regulations to charge more. ---- Rule: "However, if you buy goods online without cross-border delivery – such as when you buy something online which you intend to collect from a trader or shop yourself – you should have access to the same prices and special offers as buyers living in that EU country." Example: "Hilda from Denmark wanted to book a hire car in Spain for her summer holidays. She chose the car she wanted to book on the website of a Spanish car rental company. However, when she entered her address to finalise the reservation, she saw that the total price for her car rental increased by EUR 140. [This action is against the regulations.]"

by eterm 4y ago

therealmarv 4y ago

I think you are missing an important detail here: "When you buy goods online in the EU, prices may vary from country to country or across different versions of the same website, for example due to differences in delivery costs. However, if you buy goods online WITHOUT cross-border delivery you should have access to the same prices and special offers as buyers living in that EU country" So when cross-border delivery is done (this is fulfilled by electronic submitting even) I can charge different prices for different countries. All people with IP from country X get the same price. Country Y can have a different price. Same price among all countries in Europe cannot be true... you even have different prices on Amazon stores in Europe like amazon.de amazon.fr amazon.it amazon.es on same goods from the very same warehouse etc. Other example Netflix or Youtube Premium subscriptions, they are also not the same price among whole EU (for example Denmark vs. Bulgaria)

somenameforme 4y ago

I am fairly certain that you're misreading that, though as with all regulations - having a legal team on standby is practically a requirement. It's talking about literal in-country discrimination. For example many touristy locations will have a price for locals and a price for non-locals at places like e.g. zoos. That would be illegal in the EU. By contrast it explicitly states that: "When you buy goods online in the EU, prices may vary [their emphasis, not mine] from country to country or across different versions of the same website, for example due to differences in delivery costs." A nice rule of thumb for translating legalese is to translate "may" to "will" (except when it would benefit you), and to strip off examples. So for instance: "We may share your data, for instance with trusted partners or in response to legal obligations." translates to "We will share your data with whoever we want." And here too you can translate it to simply, "Prices will vary from country to country."

eterm 4y ago
The example they give is someone from Denmark buying something in Spain, so I'm not sure where you've got the idea of it being an "in-country" rule from.
- somenameforme 4y ago
  The point of the regulation is to prevent things like charging foreigners more products or services that will be consumed in-country. The example covers the scenario of "Well what if I'm in a different country than a vendor making a purchase (in which case it is okay for the vendor to charge more), but what I am purchasing will be obtained/'consumed' in the country of the vendor (in which case it is not okay for the vendor to charge more)?" And in that case it's also against the regulations to charge more. ---- Rule: "However, if you buy goods online without cross-border delivery – such as when you buy something online which you intend to collect from a trader or shop yourself – you should have access to the same prices and special offers as buyers living in that EU country." Example: "Hilda from Denmark wanted to book a hire car in Spain for her summer holidays. She chose the car she wanted to book on the website of a Spanish car rental company. However, when she entered her address to finalise the reservation, she saw that the total price for her car rental increased by EUR 140. [This action is against the regulations.]"