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Just avoid careers in software development. These are not high paying, if you factor in total time invested and spent working; and you have to waste your life a

Just avoid careers in software development. These are not high paying, if you factor in total time invested and spent working; and you have to waste your life away sitting in an office chasing tickets. Nothing engineery about it. It’s modern day assembly line work.

raincole 4y ago
lmao
_ink_ 4y ago
What do you recommend for someone with a CS degree?
- deleted 4y ago
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- vlovich123 4y ago
  Don’t listen to the guy above. Terrible advice likely colored by an unhappy career just like don’t listen to me because it works be followed by barring generally happy with mine. > and you have to waste your life away sitting in an office chasing tickets. Nothing engineery about it. It’s modern day assembly line work. Every job I’ve literally done I’ve set my own direction. Sure, there’s some negotiation because ultimately you have to get the work done of the business. But you make recommendations and figure out what’s compelling to the business and how that intersects with something you might find interesting and want to work on.
  - gumballindie 4y ago
    That’s quite an assumption about my career. You may be shocked by my statement and in denial but that doesnt change my prediction.
    - vlovich123 4y ago
      It’s quite a claim to make that software engineering isn’t lucrative. Sure, if you play in local markets it’s not. But then again, no local market job really is. So as far as day-to-day work goes, software engineering at the local level is fine. At the global level, if you think you can compete in the top tech companies, you’re going to probably find a very well-rewarded career. It’s generally very hard to find something that’s paying you the salary of a US doctor or lawyer with just an undergraduate degree. Fears about AI feel overblown.
- jbverschoor 4y ago
  Sunk cost, so just work in tech ;-)
Lio 4y ago
What would you describe as a high paying job?
- 6786590519 4y ago
  The 5 Platonic Solids."
goodpoint 4y ago
Here on HN everybody thinks they are going to be paid half a million a year.
- gumballindie 4y ago
  Even if they did get paid half a mil, after tax it’s what a contractor earns in the uk. Probably have to pay private health care too and the cost of living is high. Not that much left.
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    Citation needed. https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/software%20engineer.do https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/software%20engine...
tester756 4y ago
I do wonder why you're being downvoted I've came to the same conclusion: I'm earning more than my friends, but I've spend years doing it at work, I've been learning it for years at college and I've been doing it for years during my "free" time. The $ per hour spent ratio doesn't seem to be very good. When talking just about $/hour spent ratio then there are jobs which pay well and you can start earning decent faster. Like well drilling, truck driving and I bet countless other
- gumballindie 4y ago
  > I do wonder why you're being downvoted Because it is indeed a shocking conclusion and hard to swallow. Few folks in software engineering are aware of what’s going on in the world around them. People stuck at their desks chasing tickets easily lose touch with their surroundings.
Der_Einzige 4y ago
Not to mention how it destroys your ability to date. Women don't like STEMlords. Watch a girl's face at a bar when she asks you how much you make, and watch as you follow up, say the 6 figure+ amount, and then watch the exact moment that you mention you code. Coding is an "ick" for an awful lot of people. I don't blame them. I gave up on an awful lot of social skills so that I could escape the worst of capitalist exploitation. I pimp out my mind for my money. Others pimp out their bodies, or souls...
- gumballindie 4y ago
  The dating part is like affected by an inability to socialise due to sitting at a machine all day everyday. Also massively harmful to one’s health - a cost often not factored in. It is only natural that not spending time with people will lead to a gradual regression in people skills.
- horns4lyfe 4y ago
  Does this happen often? If your first response to a woman asking that question is a direct answer, you lost already. And if she demands a direct answer you should run away.

raincole 4y ago

lmao

_ink_ 4y ago

What do you recommend for someone with a CS degree?

deleted 4y ago
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vlovich123 4y ago
Don’t listen to the guy above. Terrible advice likely colored by an unhappy career just like don’t listen to me because it works be followed by barring generally happy with mine. > and you have to waste your life away sitting in an office chasing tickets. Nothing engineery about it. It’s modern day assembly line work. Every job I’ve literally done I’ve set my own direction. Sure, there’s some negotiation because ultimately you have to get the work done of the business. But you make recommendations and figure out what’s compelling to the business and how that intersects with something you might find interesting and want to work on.
- gumballindie 4y ago
  That’s quite an assumption about my career. You may be shocked by my statement and in denial but that doesnt change my prediction.
  - vlovich123 4y ago
    It’s quite a claim to make that software engineering isn’t lucrative. Sure, if you play in local markets it’s not. But then again, no local market job really is. So as far as day-to-day work goes, software engineering at the local level is fine. At the global level, if you think you can compete in the top tech companies, you’re going to probably find a very well-rewarded career. It’s generally very hard to find something that’s paying you the salary of a US doctor or lawyer with just an undergraduate degree. Fears about AI feel overblown.
jbverschoor 4y ago
Sunk cost, so just work in tech ;-)

Lio 4y ago

What would you describe as a high paying job?

6786590519 4y ago
The 5 Platonic Solids."

goodpoint 4y ago

Here on HN everybody thinks they are going to be paid half a million a year.

gumballindie 4y ago
Even if they did get paid half a mil, after tax it’s what a contractor earns in the uk. Probably have to pay private health care too and the cost of living is high. Not that much left.
- goodpoint 4y ago
  Citation needed. https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/software%20engineer.do https://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/software%20engine...

tester756 4y ago

I do wonder why you're being downvoted I've came to the same conclusion: I'm earning more than my friends, but I've spend years doing it at work, I've been learning it for years at college and I've been doing it for years during my "free" time. The $ per hour spent ratio doesn't seem to be very good. When talking just about $/hour spent ratio then there are jobs which pay well and you can start earning decent faster. Like well drilling, truck driving and I bet countless other

gumballindie 4y ago
> I do wonder why you're being downvoted Because it is indeed a shocking conclusion and hard to swallow. Few folks in software engineering are aware of what’s going on in the world around them. People stuck at their desks chasing tickets easily lose touch with their surroundings.

Der_Einzige 4y ago

Not to mention how it destroys your ability to date. Women don't like STEMlords. Watch a girl's face at a bar when she asks you how much you make, and watch as you follow up, say the 6 figure+ amount, and then watch the exact moment that you mention you code. Coding is an "ick" for an awful lot of people. I don't blame them. I gave up on an awful lot of social skills so that I could escape the worst of capitalist exploitation. I pimp out my mind for my money. Others pimp out their bodies, or souls...

gumballindie 4y ago
The dating part is like affected by an inability to socialise due to sitting at a machine all day everyday. Also massively harmful to one’s health - a cost often not factored in. It is only natural that not spending time with people will lead to a gradual regression in people skills.
horns4lyfe 4y ago
Does this happen often? If your first response to a woman asking that question is a direct answer, you lost already. And if she demands a direct answer you should run away.