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forever chemicals is another step in horrible messaging by the scientific community about the environment. first we had global warming, then we have yearly “p

forever chemicals is another step in horrible messaging by the scientific community about the environment. first we had global warming, then we have yearly “point of no return 2C” targets, now we have “forever” chemicals why does it have to be so polarizing? plastic was just about a “forever” chemical until we did any work breaking it down and now have many solutions to degrading it. i’m sure these new chemicals will be similar in 10-20 years. the fear mongering does nothing to help the real problem

tonmoy 4y ago
What economical solution do we have of breaking down plastic?
- amanaplanacanal 4y ago
  High heat and oxygen.
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    Do you know what that releases into the atmosphere?
    - polygamous_bat 4y ago
      Well, you _are_ responding in a thread to someone who does not believe climate change is a real issue, so... At least they are self consistent?
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    - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
      If well done, co2 and water. Or, if you want to do carbon capture instead, you can bury it.
majormajor 4y ago
There's a lot of confusion in this post, but just to pick on one particularly errant bit, "forever chemicals" are not new chemicals, they've been around as long as plastics have (1940s - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_subst... ) A key difference between them and plastics is how deeply they get into the body and bloodstream. (There is some similar crossover with chemicals used in plastic like BPA, but more generally the concerns around plastic are around environmental damage vs individual organism and organ damage.) (That age is also a reason to believe they aren't immediately apocalyptic since we've been living with them for a while, but research into how much can be well tolerated is very important since they stick around so well.)
PuppyTailWags 4y ago
I'm really confused by this post because we don't have good solutions to degrading plastic that I'm aware of?
- onlyonhckrnws 4y ago
  because it's pulled out of, well, you know where.
stupidreplyguy 4y ago
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tonmoy 4y ago

What economical solution do we have of breaking down plastic?

amanaplanacanal 4y ago
High heat and oxygen.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  Do you know what that releases into the atmosphere?
  - polygamous_bat 4y ago
    Well, you _are_ responding in a thread to someone who does not believe climate change is a real issue, so... At least they are self consistent?
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  - amanaplanacanal 4y ago
    If well done, co2 and water. Or, if you want to do carbon capture instead, you can bury it.

majormajor 4y ago

There's a lot of confusion in this post, but just to pick on one particularly errant bit, "forever chemicals" are not new chemicals, they've been around as long as plastics have (1940s - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_substances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per-_and_polyfluoroalkyl_subst... ) A key difference between them and plastics is how deeply they get into the body and bloodstream. (There is some similar crossover with chemicals used in plastic like BPA, but more generally the concerns around plastic are around environmental damage vs individual organism and organ damage.) (That age is also a reason to believe they aren't immediately apocalyptic since we've been living with them for a while, but research into how much can be well tolerated is very important since they stick around so well.)

PuppyTailWags 4y ago

I'm really confused by this post because we don't have good solutions to degrading plastic that I'm aware of?

onlyonhckrnws 4y ago
because it's pulled out of, well, you know where.

stupidreplyguy 4y ago

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