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We take puppies and kittens from their mothers. Is that cruel? We spade and neuter them as well, is that cruel? Is the entire domestication of animals cruel? I

We take puppies and kittens from their mothers. Is that cruel? We spade and neuter them as well, is that cruel? Is the entire domestication of animals cruel? Is it kind to forgo neutering pets in the name of allowing them to breed unfettered? Is it cruel to cull part of a herd of dear when the alternative is a slow wasting death or winter starvation? Is it kind to release hundreds of mink into the wild to die a lingering death from starvation? Where do you imagine beef bulls living out their lives in a happy and good existence?

myshpa 4y ago
> We take puppies and kittens from their mothers. Is that cruel? We have laws that prevent us from taking too young puppies and kittens from their mothers, in Europe at least. > We spade and neuter them as well, is that cruel? We use anesthetics for that ... animal agriculture doesn't. E.g. chick beak trimming, chick culling, piglet tail trimming, piglet tooth clipping, skinning alive ... I could go on for a long time (see the Dominion movie if you don't believe me). You cannot really compare lives of our pets with lives of our farm animals. > Is it kind to forgo neutering pets in the name of allowing them to breed unfettered? No, because we tend to have carnivores for pets ... and that's incredibly stupid. They already consume 25% of our meat production (IIRC). Having more of them is cruel ... to the wildlife which habitats that destroys. > cruel to cull part of a herd of dear when the alternative is a slow wasting death or winter starvation That's a problem with our forestry practices ... we eliminate predators, destroy natural habitats and then pretend our actions are necessary (and enjoy a wild game in process). > Is it kind to release hundreds of mink into the wild to die a lingering death from starvation? No ... better to not breed them at all. Why breed new ones to perpetuity in small cages, and kill new generations again and again? > Where do you imagine beef bulls living out their lives in a happy and good existence? Eat plantbased, grow cauliflower, beans and rice. Problem solved.

myshpa 4y ago

> We take puppies and kittens from their mothers. Is that cruel? We have laws that prevent us from taking too young puppies and kittens from their mothers, in Europe at least. > We spade and neuter them as well, is that cruel? We use anesthetics for that ... animal agriculture doesn't. E.g. chick beak trimming, chick culling, piglet tail trimming, piglet tooth clipping, skinning alive ... I could go on for a long time (see the Dominion movie if you don't believe me). You cannot really compare lives of our pets with lives of our farm animals. > Is it kind to forgo neutering pets in the name of allowing them to breed unfettered? No, because we tend to have carnivores for pets ... and that's incredibly stupid. They already consume 25% of our meat production (IIRC). Having more of them is cruel ... to the wildlife which habitats that destroys. > cruel to cull part of a herd of dear when the alternative is a slow wasting death or winter starvation That's a problem with our forestry practices ... we eliminate predators, destroy natural habitats and then pretend our actions are necessary (and enjoy a wild game in process). > Is it kind to release hundreds of mink into the wild to die a lingering death from starvation? No ... better to not breed them at all. Why breed new ones to perpetuity in small cages, and kill new generations again and again? > Where do you imagine beef bulls living out their lives in a happy and good existence? Eat plantbased, grow cauliflower, beans and rice. Problem solved.