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The narrow thinkers / cranks dilemma is beautifully described, thank you. You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet

The narrow thinkers / cranks dilemma is beautifully described, thank you. You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet very efficiently. One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks.

Animats 4y ago
> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks. One word. Derrida. ChatGPT and its successors may put a big dent in the pretentious blithering industry. It's now too easy to generate a pseudo-academic style. Large language models are really good at this, because they have so much obscure text upon which to draw.
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- wolverine876 4y ago
  Speaking of blithering, you are only parroting some Internet tropes in an echo chamber (which is probably where you learned them). You know by now that such things are nonsense; they are a waste of time and a poison to knowledge and reason. And I think you are far behind the times - I'm not sure many people study Derrida these days. What have you read recently?
  - Animats 4y ago
    > What have you read recently? "Embrace the Suck", by Gleeson. (Yet another Navy SEAL memoir. This author seems to enjoy the suffering a bit too much. Other SEAL memoirs describe the same training, but not with such enthusiasm for the pain.)
    - runlaszlorun 4y ago
      I’m going out on a limb here… but did they all tell you about how hard ‘hell week’ was?
      - Animats 4y ago
        Yes. It's about purpose. SEALs all write about how tough it is, but it's seen as a means to an end. People in that business need to be that tough to succeed on actual missions. Gleeson seems to be into the suffering for its own sake.
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      Sorry, I meant, 'what have your read out of academia recently' that matches these claims?
pacaro 4y ago
I've done a bit of both so to speak. I studied History and Philosophy of Science as an undergrad, but have worked as self taught software engineer for nearly 30 years. I don't think that jargon is created to confuse or obfuscate, most likely the opposite. My favorite example is in sailing. Every functional part of a sailboat has a name, because precise communication between crew can be critical and saying "pull the rope, no the other one, no the other other one" doesn't help. But telling a non sailer to tighten a jib sheet seems unnecessarily persnickety.
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wolverine876 4y ago
> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks. What have you read recently from academia? > You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet very efficiently. Sometimes things aren't simple.

Animats 4y ago

> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks. One word. Derrida. ChatGPT and its successors may put a big dent in the pretentious blithering industry. It's now too easy to generate a pseudo-academic style. Large language models are really good at this, because they have so much obscure text upon which to draw.

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wolverine876 4y ago
Speaking of blithering, you are only parroting some Internet tropes in an echo chamber (which is probably where you learned them). You know by now that such things are nonsense; they are a waste of time and a poison to knowledge and reason. And I think you are far behind the times - I'm not sure many people study Derrida these days. What have you read recently?
- Animats 4y ago
  > What have you read recently? "Embrace the Suck", by Gleeson. (Yet another Navy SEAL memoir. This author seems to enjoy the suffering a bit too much. Other SEAL memoirs describe the same training, but not with such enthusiasm for the pain.)
  - runlaszlorun 4y ago
    I’m going out on a limb here… but did they all tell you about how hard ‘hell week’ was?
    - Animats 4y ago
      Yes. It's about purpose. SEALs all write about how tough it is, but it's seen as a means to an end. People in that business need to be that tough to succeed on actual missions. Gleeson seems to be into the suffering for its own sake.
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    Sorry, I meant, 'what have your read out of academia recently' that matches these claims?

pacaro 4y ago

I've done a bit of both so to speak. I studied History and Philosophy of Science as an undergrad, but have worked as self taught software engineer for nearly 30 years. I don't think that jargon is created to confuse or obfuscate, most likely the opposite. My favorite example is in sailing. Every functional part of a sailboat has a name, because precise communication between crew can be critical and saying "pull the rope, no the other one, no the other other one" doesn't help. But telling a non sailer to tighten a jib sheet seems unnecessarily persnickety.

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wolverine876 4y ago

> One of the diseases of current academia is use of an extremely stilted language, perhaps intended to paper over some logical cracks. What have you read recently from academia? > You aren't in the academia, are you? Because you explain things in simple terms, yet very efficiently. Sometimes things aren't simple.