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Yes, masks worked so well that it was impossible to see an effect from the imposition of mask mandates in any case curves (and the virus spread freely in Asian

Yes, masks worked so well that it was impossible to see an effect from the imposition of mask mandates in any case curves (and the virus spread freely in Asian countries with 97+% compliance rates), and closures & mRNA vaccines worked so well that the one country which tried to keep the virus out indefinitely had to relent and let nearly all its citizens contract SARS-CoV-2, and they did fine (meaning: no overwhelmed hospitals, no broad societal chaos) without any mRNA vaccinations whatsoever.

actually_a_dog 4y ago
This is addressed in the article. Masks are effective when worn (shocking, I tell ya); mask mandates are ineffective when ignored or when people are already masking at a high rate.
- VagueMag 4y ago
  lol I literally mentioned extremely high compliance Asian countries in my comment, seems to have sailed right over your head. They don't work. Edit: oh I see, so the theory is that case rates would have been even higher without the high compliance rates in Asia. Classic unfalsifiable hypothesis. The Bangladesh study that even mask advocates like to cite showed a 10% reduction in transmission, hardly worth all the depersonalization and discomfort that masks impose.
  - actually_a_dog 4y ago
    Clearly, you missed this: > High levels of community masking, including both source patients and exposed people, have been associated with reductions in infections ranging from 10% to 80%, with more protection when there is consistent mask-wearing in high-risk areas such as households. Not to mention the link in that paragraph, which references 18 studies supporting the effectiveness of masks: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...
    - VagueMag 4y ago
      The CDC is not a credible source on any topics relating to SARS-CoV-2 but in particular masks. They've been churning out junk science on the subject ever since the initial outbreak. "Consistent mask wearing in high-risk areas such as households" just lol, yeah let me wear a mask over my face 24/7 forever so I can maybe catch SARS-CoV-2 six months later than I otherwise would have.
      - actually_a_dog 4y ago
        The CDC conducted none of the 18 linked studies.

actually_a_dog 4y ago

This is addressed in the article. Masks are effective when worn (shocking, I tell ya); mask mandates are ineffective when ignored or when people are already masking at a high rate.

VagueMag 4y ago
lol I literally mentioned extremely high compliance Asian countries in my comment, seems to have sailed right over your head. They don't work. Edit: oh I see, so the theory is that case rates would have been even higher without the high compliance rates in Asia. Classic unfalsifiable hypothesis. The Bangladesh study that even mask advocates like to cite showed a 10% reduction in transmission, hardly worth all the depersonalization and discomfort that masks impose.
- actually_a_dog 4y ago
  Clearly, you missed this: > High levels of community masking, including both source patients and exposed people, have been associated with reductions in infections ranging from 10% to 80%, with more protection when there is consistent mask-wearing in high-risk areas such as households. Not to mention the link in that paragraph, which references 18 studies supporting the effectiveness of masks: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-br...
  - VagueMag 4y ago
    The CDC is not a credible source on any topics relating to SARS-CoV-2 but in particular masks. They've been churning out junk science on the subject ever since the initial outbreak. "Consistent mask wearing in high-risk areas such as households" just lol, yeah let me wear a mask over my face 24/7 forever so I can maybe catch SARS-CoV-2 six months later than I otherwise would have.
    - actually_a_dog 4y ago
      The CDC conducted none of the 18 linked studies.