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A few posts in this thread talk about the signaling value of college and I wanted to share a thought on that. When's the last time you saw someone wear a suit?
by xyzelement 4y ago
A few posts in this thread talk about the signaling value of college and I wanted to share a thought on that.
When's the last time you saw someone wear a suit? For me, most people I see in suits now days are town car drivers. Because that's who needs to signal something (reliability?) to me in a low context environment.
People stopped wearing suits at work, even for interviews, because the signaling value of a suit is zero. I've read your LinkedIn way before I met you. If you are hot shit, I already know that. If you are not, the suit isn't going to change that.
Likewise, back in the day the fact that you had a degree and what school that degree was from, was a huge signal - often the sole signal you can get on someone prior to meeting them or considering them for a job.
Nowadays that's just not the case. Between credible certifications, blogs, gihub portfolios, open source projects, etc - I can get a TON of signal on you that would be more valuable than your college background.
To be fair not everyone thinks this way but I think that's a point in time thing. The signal is there and getting stronger, it's only matter of time before it's recognized more broadly.
And to the point, if you apprenticed in your field and had good results, people will selfishly value that more in hiring than you having gone to some woke school.
- gnicholas 4y agoThere are some industries where suits are still regularly worn, though even in these fields (law, banking) it is less common than before. In Silicon Valley, lawyers only wear suits when going to court or to depositions.
- paulpauper 4y agoYeah, outside of finance, it would seem like it's the opposite, signaling lower status and conformity. Nowadays that's just not the case. Between credible certifications, blogs, gihub portfolios, open source projects, etc - I can get a TON of signal on you that would be more valuable than your college background. But this is just a tiny subset of jobs though.
- mtrower 4y ago> People stopped wearing suits at work, even for interviews, because the signaling value of a suit is zero. In fact it's become an anti-signal in software; people look at you funny. I actually failed an interview once because I wore a suit.