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that isn’t true. i’ve never received nutritional advice from a doctor, and if i did i doubt it would be much more than “eat fruits and veggies and exercise” th

by tempsy 4y ago

that isn’t true. i’ve never received nutritional advice from a doctor, and if i did i doubt it would be much more than “eat fruits and veggies and exercise” the “official” food pyramid put out by the government still tells people to eat mostly refined grains and carbs.

kevviiinn 4y ago
Your statement is not at odds with my claim, not to mention eating more fruits and veggies is an improvement for 85%+ of Americans so yea that's actually solid advice. I don't know why you think it isn't Most Americans are also sedentary and don't exercise at all so again, even just walking more is an improvement for most people. All that being said, I also have not had a doctor who didn't first ask me what my diet and exercise are like before making suggestions
- rco8786 4y ago
  Eating fruits and vegetables is not typically good medical advice when we’re talking about acute issues. Advice for a healthier lifestyle, more energy, longevity, etc? Yes of course. Advice for sleep apnea that’s already set in and affecting a patient nightly? Not at all.
  - kevviiinn 4y ago
    I wasn't aware that sleep apnea is an acute issue, I could have sworn that's chronic
    - rco8786 4y ago
      I am not a doctor so it’s entirely possible I am misusing a term here. But afaik chronic is something that cannot be cured. This is not the case with sleep apnea. It just can’t be cured with vegetables.
      - kevviiinn 4y ago
        A condition is described as acute when the onset is sudden and duration is short, a condition is chronic when it persists over a long period of time. It has nothing to do with curability One of the major causes of sleep apnea is being overweight, so it can definitely be helped with a change in activity levels a diet modification https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/18126.htm https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/18126.htm
- tempsy 4y ago
  a doctor giving generic “eat fruits and vegetables” doesn’t mean anything. it’s just generic words an 8 year old could tell you you don’t take nutrition in medical school. doctors wouldn’t be able to prescribe a more personalized nutritional plan even if they wanted to whether or not they say this or don’t won’t change anyone’s life
hnu0847 4y ago
> the “official” food pyramid put out by the government still tells people to eat mostly refined grains and carbs. Apparently this isn't true anymore. The Food Pyramid was replaced with the current "MyPlate" model in 2011 [1]. That said, grains still feature prominently on the plate and the details say up to half of those can be refined [2], which still seems high. [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/crumbling-confusing-food-pyramid-replaced-by-a-plate-201106032767 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/crumbling-confusing-food... [2] https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/grains https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/grains

by tempsy 4y ago

kevviiinn 4y ago

Your statement is not at odds with my claim, not to mention eating more fruits and veggies is an improvement for 85%+ of Americans so yea that's actually solid advice. I don't know why you think it isn't Most Americans are also sedentary and don't exercise at all so again, even just walking more is an improvement for most people. All that being said, I also have not had a doctor who didn't first ask me what my diet and exercise are like before making suggestions

rco8786 4y ago
Eating fruits and vegetables is not typically good medical advice when we’re talking about acute issues. Advice for a healthier lifestyle, more energy, longevity, etc? Yes of course. Advice for sleep apnea that’s already set in and affecting a patient nightly? Not at all.
- kevviiinn 4y ago
  I wasn't aware that sleep apnea is an acute issue, I could have sworn that's chronic
  - rco8786 4y ago
    I am not a doctor so it’s entirely possible I am misusing a term here. But afaik chronic is something that cannot be cured. This is not the case with sleep apnea. It just can’t be cured with vegetables.
    - kevviiinn 4y ago
      A condition is described as acute when the onset is sudden and duration is short, a condition is chronic when it persists over a long period of time. It has nothing to do with curability One of the major causes of sleep apnea is being overweight, so it can definitely be helped with a change in activity levels a diet modification https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/18126.htm https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/18126.htm
tempsy 4y ago
a doctor giving generic “eat fruits and vegetables” doesn’t mean anything. it’s just generic words an 8 year old could tell you you don’t take nutrition in medical school. doctors wouldn’t be able to prescribe a more personalized nutritional plan even if they wanted to whether or not they say this or don’t won’t change anyone’s life

hnu0847 4y ago

> the “official” food pyramid put out by the government still tells people to eat mostly refined grains and carbs. Apparently this isn't true anymore. The Food Pyramid was replaced with the current "MyPlate" model in 2011 [1]. That said, grains still feature prominently on the plate and the details say up to half of those can be refined [2], which still seems high. [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/crumbling-confusing-food-pyramid-replaced-by-a-plate-201106032767 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/crumbling-confusing-food... [2] https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/grains https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/grains