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I’ve seen those screenshots too, I spent hours googling for this. But that setting is not available on my Windows. Maybe a pro vs home thing? I’m on the latest

I’ve seen those screenshots too, I spent hours googling for this. But that setting is not available on my Windows. Maybe a pro vs home thing? I’m on the latest version. I don’t believe that this is by accident, I think MS decided that I’m in some customer segment that’s not allowed to not know that Jimmy Fallon might be depressed. And even then, I can’t get the widgets feature, a pretty decent idea, without the news. I want to turn off the news, not the feature.

mikub 4y ago
I have Win11 Pro and it really is just those three clicks.
- skrebbel 4y ago
  I’m not going to pay MS even more just to get a version that has a “please disable this one specific bit of crap” toggle. This has got to be the worst upsell ever. It’s like you book a hotel room and the TV is on Fox News and you can’t turn the TV off. You ask around but everybody says that they can turn it off just fine, must be you. Turns out that they’re all in the executive suite and they also have Fox News on the TV, turned on by default when they enter the room, but for them the hotel didn’t hide the remote.
  - grugagag 4y ago
    Can’t stop laughing, it’s a funny analogy. Im trying to find a case where the user would be okay with that but not even the staunchest fox news fan would be okay with it. I really hate this model where windows is free but infested by ads you can’t get away from. The other day someone came over to me asking if they should get a windows laptop upgrade and I recommending them getting a mac
    - RajT88 4y ago
      Fox News fans would love it if a hotel (or all hotels) turned Fox News on and hid the remotes. If you have a TV in a public place people are always trying to put Fox News on. It is not because of those businesses.
  - xattt 4y ago
    It was either in 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 where each house was equipped with a radio that couldn’t be turned off but only made quieter. My Google-fu is failing me.
    - gjm11 4y ago
      On the first page of _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ there's this: "Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely." (Though the more nightmarish thing about 1984's "telescreens" is that they were two-way, giving the government the ability to see and hear what you were doing as well as exposing you to their propaganda.) I had the vague feeling there was something similar in _Fahrenheit 451_ too, but I took a look and I'm pretty sure there isn't.
      - soundnote 4y ago
        And people today happily buy voice assistants themselves.
        CamperBob2 4y ago
        "Hey Telescreen, reorder trash bags and look up recipes for risotto." Huxley's extrapolations were much more on-target than Orwell's. He realized people would line up to buy things that Orwell assumed would have to be imposed at gunpoint.
        xattt 4y ago
        From ChatGPT using the prompt of a description of someone ordering household items from a voice assistant in the style of 1984: As the clock struck 10 in the morning, Winston Smith approached the telescreen in his small apartment, where his voice assistant, known as "Big Alexa," awaited his commands. "Order household items," Winston spoke into the device, his voice barely above a whisper. "Confirmed," the cold, metallic voice of the voice assistant replied. "What items would you like to order, Winston?" Winston hesitated, feeling a twinge of paranoia as he considered the possibility that his every word and bowel habits were being monitored and recorded by the omnipresent Party. But he knew that he had no choice but to comply with the rules of this totalitarian society. "Two rolls of toilet paper," he said, his voice trembling slightly. "Two rolls of toilet paper," the voice assistant repeated back in its emotionless tone. "Anything else?" "Yes," Winston said, his eyes darting nervously around the room. "One bottle of dish soap, one box of laundry detergent, and a package of paper towels." "Confirmed," the voice assistant said. "Your order will be processed and delivered within the next 24 hours." Winston breathed a small sigh of relief, knowing that he had successfully navigated yet another aspect of his tightly controlled life. But as he turned away from the telescreen and resumed his mundane existence, he couldn't help but wonder if there was any escape from the all-seeing eyes of the Party.
  - NikolaNovak 4y ago
    Your analogy is good but I disagree with your principle. Companies need to make money (if you don't accept this premise, fair rough but we probably have no further meaningful discussion). I'm OK if they offer me options. Here's a free / cheap option that's ad supported, here's a premium option that has no ads. This is a good choice! It's a good choice for all! It's when we don't have that choice that things suck! And if we want free things with no ads, that option exists too! :-)
    - throwbackhere 4y ago
      Microsoft is using dark patterns and is gaslighting its customers about it. The honest thing to do here is for Microsoft to leave the option visible but show a big ugly error window when lesser users try to change the setting. That way, people won't waste their time trying to fix something they're not allowed to fix. Source: This happened to me, a now Linux user.
    - skrebbel 4y ago
      Look, I don’t even know for sure if this is a Home vs Pro thing. I’m just deducting that from the comments here. I’m not arguing against the virtues of an ad-supported software product, I’m arguing against the obscenely braindead way Microsoft is executing it. If there were a free ad-supported Windows and a paid ad-free (and news-free!) Windows I’d be a happy paying customer.
  - CatWChainsaw 4y ago
    Last year, I bought a win10 pro to avoid microsoft login BS. It was a $1000 upsell.
- skneko 4y ago
  I have the non-Pro edition (Home?) and I have the setting. I think this is a US-vs-Europe thing?
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    There are various unexpected limitations a given Windows experience can have. Recently someone’s laptop broke while visiting the Mexican beach I was living so they bought a laptop from the local shop. The Windows install was in Spanish and the language options offered no other language to choose from. All of the tutorials online showed menu options that weren’t there. I tried helping them change it to English. Apparently, for some reason, Microsoft really does offer single language Windows—I found after some digging.
    - bogdart 4y ago
      You still can change language in single language Windows, but it requires a lot of registry changes and restarts. Also technically it breaks the licence.
aryaneja 4y ago
Might be a dumb question but are you the admin?
- tremon 4y ago
  As if only admins should have the privilege of turning off obnoxious stuff on their desktop?
labrador 4y ago
They just rolled out the taskbar features in Home Windows 11. I just turned Widgets off thanks to the parent comment, not that they bothered me because I never clicked on them

mikub 4y ago

I have Win11 Pro and it really is just those three clicks.

skrebbel 4y ago
I’m not going to pay MS even more just to get a version that has a “please disable this one specific bit of crap” toggle. This has got to be the worst upsell ever. It’s like you book a hotel room and the TV is on Fox News and you can’t turn the TV off. You ask around but everybody says that they can turn it off just fine, must be you. Turns out that they’re all in the executive suite and they also have Fox News on the TV, turned on by default when they enter the room, but for them the hotel didn’t hide the remote.
- grugagag 4y ago
  Can’t stop laughing, it’s a funny analogy. Im trying to find a case where the user would be okay with that but not even the staunchest fox news fan would be okay with it. I really hate this model where windows is free but infested by ads you can’t get away from. The other day someone came over to me asking if they should get a windows laptop upgrade and I recommending them getting a mac
  - RajT88 4y ago
    Fox News fans would love it if a hotel (or all hotels) turned Fox News on and hid the remotes. If you have a TV in a public place people are always trying to put Fox News on. It is not because of those businesses.
- xattt 4y ago
  It was either in 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 where each house was equipped with a radio that couldn’t be turned off but only made quieter. My Google-fu is failing me.
  - gjm11 4y ago
    On the first page of _Nineteen Eighty-Four_ there's this: "Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely." (Though the more nightmarish thing about 1984's "telescreens" is that they were two-way, giving the government the ability to see and hear what you were doing as well as exposing you to their propaganda.) I had the vague feeling there was something similar in _Fahrenheit 451_ too, but I took a look and I'm pretty sure there isn't.
    - soundnote 4y ago
      And people today happily buy voice assistants themselves.
      - CamperBob2 4y ago
        "Hey Telescreen, reorder trash bags and look up recipes for risotto." Huxley's extrapolations were much more on-target than Orwell's. He realized people would line up to buy things that Orwell assumed would have to be imposed at gunpoint.
        xattt 4y ago
        From ChatGPT using the prompt of a description of someone ordering household items from a voice assistant in the style of 1984: As the clock struck 10 in the morning, Winston Smith approached the telescreen in his small apartment, where his voice assistant, known as "Big Alexa," awaited his commands. "Order household items," Winston spoke into the device, his voice barely above a whisper. "Confirmed," the cold, metallic voice of the voice assistant replied. "What items would you like to order, Winston?" Winston hesitated, feeling a twinge of paranoia as he considered the possibility that his every word and bowel habits were being monitored and recorded by the omnipresent Party. But he knew that he had no choice but to comply with the rules of this totalitarian society. "Two rolls of toilet paper," he said, his voice trembling slightly. "Two rolls of toilet paper," the voice assistant repeated back in its emotionless tone. "Anything else?" "Yes," Winston said, his eyes darting nervously around the room. "One bottle of dish soap, one box of laundry detergent, and a package of paper towels." "Confirmed," the voice assistant said. "Your order will be processed and delivered within the next 24 hours." Winston breathed a small sigh of relief, knowing that he had successfully navigated yet another aspect of his tightly controlled life. But as he turned away from the telescreen and resumed his mundane existence, he couldn't help but wonder if there was any escape from the all-seeing eyes of the Party.
- NikolaNovak 4y ago
  Your analogy is good but I disagree with your principle. Companies need to make money (if you don't accept this premise, fair rough but we probably have no further meaningful discussion). I'm OK if they offer me options. Here's a free / cheap option that's ad supported, here's a premium option that has no ads. This is a good choice! It's a good choice for all! It's when we don't have that choice that things suck! And if we want free things with no ads, that option exists too! :-)
  - throwbackhere 4y ago
    Microsoft is using dark patterns and is gaslighting its customers about it. The honest thing to do here is for Microsoft to leave the option visible but show a big ugly error window when lesser users try to change the setting. That way, people won't waste their time trying to fix something they're not allowed to fix. Source: This happened to me, a now Linux user.
  - skrebbel 4y ago
    Look, I don’t even know for sure if this is a Home vs Pro thing. I’m just deducting that from the comments here. I’m not arguing against the virtues of an ad-supported software product, I’m arguing against the obscenely braindead way Microsoft is executing it. If there were a free ad-supported Windows and a paid ad-free (and news-free!) Windows I’d be a happy paying customer.
- CatWChainsaw 4y ago
  Last year, I bought a win10 pro to avoid microsoft login BS. It was a $1000 upsell.
skneko 4y ago
I have the non-Pro edition (Home?) and I have the setting. I think this is a US-vs-Europe thing?
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  There are various unexpected limitations a given Windows experience can have. Recently someone’s laptop broke while visiting the Mexican beach I was living so they bought a laptop from the local shop. The Windows install was in Spanish and the language options offered no other language to choose from. All of the tutorials online showed menu options that weren’t there. I tried helping them change it to English. Apparently, for some reason, Microsoft really does offer single language Windows—I found after some digging.
  - bogdart 4y ago
    You still can change language in single language Windows, but it requires a lot of registry changes and restarts. Also technically it breaks the licence.

aryaneja 4y ago

Might be a dumb question but are you the admin?

tremon 4y ago
As if only admins should have the privilege of turning off obnoxious stuff on their desktop?

labrador 4y ago

They just rolled out the taskbar features in Home Windows 11. I just turned Widgets off thanks to the parent comment, not that they bothered me because I never clicked on them