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@procinct posted a definition that disagrees with you. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/birth%20parent https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bir

@procinct posted a definition that disagrees with you. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/birth%20parent https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/birth%20parent This seems to be a problem with these new "woke" words or however you'd like to describe them. They seem unnatural and sudden which is why everyone is confused.

azinman2 4y ago
From that link: “ the natural father or mother of a child who has been adopted” How does that disagree with me?
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  Actually at closer look would you say that the definition is wrong? Or is it being used wrong?
  - azinman2 4y ago
    “Early last year, Google announced it would be increasing parental leave for full-time employees to 18 weeks for all parents and 24 weeks for birth parents” Perhaps they’re widening it to include people giving birth. Some people giving birth may then give up their child for adoption, so they wouldn’t want to be called mothers. Either that or they’re trans in some way but able to give birth. I think the point being is that there are many ways a family is constructed, and many situations people find themselves in.
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  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    It’s being used wrong in the instant article by a clumsy writer triyng to condense the phrase “parents who give birth” used in the referenced earlier article on the leave policy.
procinct 4y ago
That term has existed since before “woke” was a term. There’s nothing woke about it.
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  I replied to your other comment, but you could clarify here, when did it come to popular usage, when was it "invented", and when did you here about it? Because I first heard it used about a year ago.
  - procinct 4y ago
    It’s been a common term in my country for as long as I can remember so it might be cultural. I’d say “biological parents” has a more clinical connotation to it but would be just as easily interpreted. Most commonly used by people who are adopted to refer to their biological parents (especially I would say if they have a relationship with them). I definitely wouldn’t view it as a woke term (I wouldn’t see how it would serve that demographic) unless it’s being used in a different way to the definition I posted earlier. Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I still don’t think I’d consider that woke but I’ve never heard it in that context and would find it a confusing term since I’m used to the other definition.
    - MrOwnPut 4y ago
      > Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I still don’t think I’d consider that woke but I’ve never heard it in that context and would find it a confusing term since I’m used to the other definition. I see, another user commented about it possibly including "surrogacy", so that may be the explanation there. Biological would more refer to those who provided the sperm & eggs, birth would refer to those who actually did the... birthing. The birth father would be the one in the relationship with the birth mother?
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I don’t think its a real new meaning in any kind of general use, it is just bad writing trying to condense the terminology used in the earlier article. The early article it references on the leave policy uses “parents who give birth”. Aside from gender identity issues, this also addresses the fact that the Google policy (as I understand it) applies to adoptive parents as well, so even leaving aside gender identity “mothers” and “parents who give birth” would not be identical groups. “Birth parents” is a writer making a misguided and overzealous attempt at making that more terse.

azinman2 4y ago

From that link: “ the natural father or mother of a child who has been adopted” How does that disagree with me?

MrOwnPut 4y ago
Actually at closer look would you say that the definition is wrong? Or is it being used wrong?
- azinman2 4y ago
  “Early last year, Google announced it would be increasing parental leave for full-time employees to 18 weeks for all parents and 24 weeks for birth parents” Perhaps they’re widening it to include people giving birth. Some people giving birth may then give up their child for adoption, so they wouldn’t want to be called mothers. Either that or they’re trans in some way but able to give birth. I think the point being is that there are many ways a family is constructed, and many situations people find themselves in.
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- dragonwriter 4y ago
  It’s being used wrong in the instant article by a clumsy writer triyng to condense the phrase “parents who give birth” used in the referenced earlier article on the leave policy.

procinct 4y ago

That term has existed since before “woke” was a term. There’s nothing woke about it.

MrOwnPut 4y ago
I replied to your other comment, but you could clarify here, when did it come to popular usage, when was it "invented", and when did you here about it? Because I first heard it used about a year ago.
- procinct 4y ago
  It’s been a common term in my country for as long as I can remember so it might be cultural. I’d say “biological parents” has a more clinical connotation to it but would be just as easily interpreted. Most commonly used by people who are adopted to refer to their biological parents (especially I would say if they have a relationship with them). I definitely wouldn’t view it as a woke term (I wouldn’t see how it would serve that demographic) unless it’s being used in a different way to the definition I posted earlier. Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I still don’t think I’d consider that woke but I’ve never heard it in that context and would find it a confusing term since I’m used to the other definition.
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    > Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I still don’t think I’d consider that woke but I’ve never heard it in that context and would find it a confusing term since I’m used to the other definition. I see, another user commented about it possibly including "surrogacy", so that may be the explanation there. Biological would more refer to those who provided the sperm & eggs, birth would refer to those who actually did the... birthing. The birth father would be the one in the relationship with the birth mother?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Reading the article it might have a new meaning which potentially refers to the parent who actually performs the birth? I don’t think its a real new meaning in any kind of general use, it is just bad writing trying to condense the terminology used in the earlier article. The early article it references on the leave policy uses “parents who give birth”. Aside from gender identity issues, this also addresses the fact that the Google policy (as I understand it) applies to adoptive parents as well, so even leaving aside gender identity “mothers” and “parents who give birth” would not be identical groups. “Birth parents” is a writer making a misguided and overzealous attempt at making that more terse.