If you allow me.... > But with <javascript> there was no graceful degradation at all; you either ran <javacript> and brought your computer to its knees <with a

If you allow me.... > But with <javascript> there was no graceful degradation at all; you either ran <javacript> and brought your computer to its knees <with ads that cover 70% of page>, or you couldn't use the website at all. I remember times when flash is everwhere. Usually flash was present as ads, videoplayer, sometime as full website, and sometime only as fancy-colorful menu. Honestly, I don't see big difference between flash and javascript from user POV. Same sometime slowness, sometime lags, all the time ads, etc. etc.