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no shit, sherlock. keep shipping a user hostile OS ? and you think people are gonna stay. in as much the javascript ecosystem is a pita. it freed a lot of soft

• hackerlight 4y ago
  For me it has nothing to do with OS. It's the hardware quality of Apple, and the OS comes along for the ride.
  • rektide 4y ago
    There are really nice Windows machines but Holy shit, there is zero legit reason to pay Apple grade prices for a laptop, especially a Windows laptop. (Unless you are a company & then price is a rounding error on expenses anyways.) Especially since no one is sure how good the Win laptop really is. The market segmentation is ridiculous. So many deliberately shitty builds and subpar screens that cost $25 less than a good screen, on mid range laptops. Awful web cams everywhere. The PC market is killing itself, by trying too hard to extract an upsell, rather than making smart compromises that try to deliver good value. Frigging unbelievably sad. Actually I take back my starting place! Apple now has great very capable well built $1k laptops. That's borderline perfectly fine for a very solid low-compromise machine imo. Disruption from above coming down (so damned rare in today's world!). I was more thinking MBP prices but you just don't need it now.
  • zwieback 4y ago
    Especially nowadays where OS and app experience has been largely replaced with browser and webapp experience.
• version_five 4y ago
  the next evolution of course will be the transition of professional software to run on web-assembly, then people can finally be free of microsoft's tyranny. If you're running some closed source code from a SaaS application in wasm, you're not free of anybody's tyranny. The advantage of Microsoft is actually a widely compatible ecosystem. There might be vendor lock-in, but it was always collective vendor lock in, so at least it was easy to exchange stuff. If everyone is using some different incompatible SaaS, we're going to experience all the downside and non of the upside.
• 7thaccount 4y ago
  I'll shortly be switching jobs and one of the things I look forward to most is getting a Mac so I can finally use a real terminal and something that isn't so buggy. I'll still run some Windows programs in a VM I guess, but it won't have to be my main experience. I'm also excited about a usable and easy to learn systems language that can compile to a binary (swift).
  • zamadatix 4y ago
    I made the switch to macOS with my last job change for the first time because of the M1 and I'll give two notes from my experience: the terminal is still very awkward compared to a proper Linux environment + will still need a bunch of tweaking and Crossover tends to run the random Windows app better/more conveniently than Parallels (which has been the best VM experience on Apple silicon so far). Overall it's great but don't go into thinking it's terminal focused or bug free just because it's not Windows and has a *nix background. It's more like trading one set of weird decisions for another, albeit with less attempts to gather your data or sell you things (but not 0 attempts). The hardware lives up fully to the hype though.
    • 7thaccount 4y ago
      I thought MacOS was built off of BSD. Wouldn't that make it to where you can run most of the common Unix commands and stuff like Awk?
      • zamadatix 4y ago
        It is built off BSD, that's where said *nix background comes from. Where it falls short is Apple won't ship anything GPLv3 licensed so you get a lot of either ancient or non-standard programs you're back to having to fix up via 3rd party sources (e.g. homebrew, and be careful with what you put as default in the path). There's also no 1st CLI package manager and the Store is primarily about GUI apps since it's a consumer OS at the end of the day. Even when you do patch in modern coreutils, bash, editors, and such you find it's still not quite the environment tools expect i.e. Linux so things like Docker just spin up a Linux VM anyways. As far as the original "real terminal" it used to be the the macOS Terminal app was miles ahead of Windows but now that's not even that different with both system's "Terminal" apps having tabs, panes, 24 bit color, decent ANSI VT sequences support, transparency, ligatures, customizable shortcuts, and so on. Windows will actually ships OpenSSH and a newer version of Python but macOS ships a lot more of the standard tools like screen, awk, and nano but as mentioned they can be woefully out of date anyways so it's not a huge upsell and you'll still be adding a 3rd party package manager like homebrew. On the bright side homebrew is much easier to work with than e.g. cygwin IMO. That said WSL2 is much easier to work with than any of the "Linux VM on macOS" systems so it's a bit of a give and take there. Asahi (native Linux on Apple Silicon laptops) is fantastic but unless you're a diehard Linux user that's fine with working around fairly core features being unsupported it's not quite there yet so Linux dual booting is a bit of a loss right now too.
• goosedragons 4y ago
  Unfortunately most of the growth seems to have been for another user hostile OS, macOS.
  • srgpqt 4y ago
    All modern OS are user-hostile in some way. At least macOS mostly gets out of your way and lets you get your work done.