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Ironically, I run a machine with a Realtek Wifi 6 chip and it works great on Linux, despite everything I read online was that Realtek is to be avoided on Linux

Ironically, I run a machine with a Realtek Wifi 6 chip and it works great on Linux, despite everything I read online was that Realtek is to be avoided on Linux and Intel should be the go-to. In a similar fashion, I was also luckier with Nvidia proprietary drivers on Linux than with AMD open source drivers. Seems like HW on Linux really is a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

cf100clunk 4y ago
Could you please give the dmesg and/or other relevant id for your Realtek device? I'm getting tired of these Intel ax2?0 issues. I'm not much of a Bluetooth user but does it also work well?
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  I'm currently logged into Windoze for some work but I can tell you the card is a Realtek RTL8852AE. I can pull up the dmesg info later tonight when I reboot into linux if you want. Bluetooth works fine on it on Linux as well between my phone and my Sony headphones. No complaints from me on Fedora/Opensuse. Out of curiosity, what issues are you having with the Intel AX chip? I also have it on my Lenovo Intel work machine running Ubuntu 22.04 and it seems OK to me.
  - cf100clunk 4y ago
    > RTL8852AE No that's fine, great info, cheers.
  - Vogtinator 4y ago
    Same RTL chip here, works absolutely fine without any issues.
ajoseps 4y ago
do you by chance have any experience with the realtek ethernet? I too have seen the conventional wisdom around avoiding the realtek chips. I'm looking to build a linux box (hopefully) soon and filtering out mobos with realtek chips is difficult
- KyleSanderson 4y ago
  They used to be glitchy, I've had okay success with them. The igc module (new igb) is a buggy nightmare on Linux with the kmod maintainers having no idea how to run a speed test with forwarding to also kernel panic... It's really bizarre.
  - wtallis 4y ago
    Intel's consumer-oriented Ethernet has also been a disaster on the hardware side lately, with basically all of their 2.5GbE chips having serious bugs. At this point, it seems like Realtek is the sane choice for 2.5GbE, or Aquantia/Marvell for 5/10GbE.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  My old Intel laptop from 2016 had a Realtek ethernet gigabit chip and Linux rand fine on it. I don't have it anymore to confirm which chip exactly, nor do I think they still sell that today.
CameronNemo 4y ago
The problem with realtek chipsets is that many of them just have no in-kernel driver, so you have to use some questionably maintained out of tree driver from github or whatever. Soundslike you got one of the chipsets that has in-kernel support, so that is good.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  No I don't think it's in kernel support, I think that Nobara linux has been patched to support it. It's not a recommendation to go and buy a Realtek card, I was just sharing my anecdote.
  - CameronNemo 4y ago
    Ok so yeah that is my main complaint about the Realtek cards. If the out of tree driver becomes unmaintained / incompatible with future kernels, you are SoL. Also dkms is kind of a headache to deal with. Not sure if Nobara builds the module for you, but on traditional distros you would have to build the module via dkms on each kernel update, which again I have to repeat is not guaranteed to actually succeed.
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      Wait, I was wrong. Apparently the driver for that chip has been in the Linux kernel since Fedora 36.
pnutjam 4y ago
I've been happily running KDE Neon with Nvidia drivers, last set of updates had some weird dependancies and I powered through by removing and replacing the conflicts... Took me 3 days to get back to a GUI at boot, turns out I needed to delete the xorg.conf file.
ValdikSS 4y ago
>works great on Linux Now try `sudo iw dev wlan0 del` and the kernel will deadlock :)

cf100clunk 4y ago

Could you please give the dmesg and/or other relevant id for your Realtek device? I'm getting tired of these Intel ax2?0 issues. I'm not much of a Bluetooth user but does it also work well?

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
I'm currently logged into Windoze for some work but I can tell you the card is a Realtek RTL8852AE. I can pull up the dmesg info later tonight when I reboot into linux if you want. Bluetooth works fine on it on Linux as well between my phone and my Sony headphones. No complaints from me on Fedora/Opensuse. Out of curiosity, what issues are you having with the Intel AX chip? I also have it on my Lenovo Intel work machine running Ubuntu 22.04 and it seems OK to me.
- cf100clunk 4y ago
  > RTL8852AE No that's fine, great info, cheers.
- Vogtinator 4y ago
  Same RTL chip here, works absolutely fine without any issues.

ajoseps 4y ago

do you by chance have any experience with the realtek ethernet? I too have seen the conventional wisdom around avoiding the realtek chips. I'm looking to build a linux box (hopefully) soon and filtering out mobos with realtek chips is difficult

KyleSanderson 4y ago
They used to be glitchy, I've had okay success with them. The igc module (new igb) is a buggy nightmare on Linux with the kmod maintainers having no idea how to run a speed test with forwarding to also kernel panic... It's really bizarre.
- wtallis 4y ago
  Intel's consumer-oriented Ethernet has also been a disaster on the hardware side lately, with basically all of their 2.5GbE chips having serious bugs. At this point, it seems like Realtek is the sane choice for 2.5GbE, or Aquantia/Marvell for 5/10GbE.
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
My old Intel laptop from 2016 had a Realtek ethernet gigabit chip and Linux rand fine on it. I don't have it anymore to confirm which chip exactly, nor do I think they still sell that today.

CameronNemo 4y ago

The problem with realtek chipsets is that many of them just have no in-kernel driver, so you have to use some questionably maintained out of tree driver from github or whatever. Soundslike you got one of the chipsets that has in-kernel support, so that is good.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
No I don't think it's in kernel support, I think that Nobara linux has been patched to support it. It's not a recommendation to go and buy a Realtek card, I was just sharing my anecdote.
- CameronNemo 4y ago
  Ok so yeah that is my main complaint about the Realtek cards. If the out of tree driver becomes unmaintained / incompatible with future kernels, you are SoL. Also dkms is kind of a headache to deal with. Not sure if Nobara builds the module for you, but on traditional distros you would have to build the module via dkms on each kernel update, which again I have to repeat is not guaranteed to actually succeed.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    Wait, I was wrong. Apparently the driver for that chip has been in the Linux kernel since Fedora 36.

pnutjam 4y ago

I've been happily running KDE Neon with Nvidia drivers, last set of updates had some weird dependancies and I powered through by removing and replacing the conflicts... Took me 3 days to get back to a GUI at boot, turns out I needed to delete the xorg.conf file.

ValdikSS 4y ago

>works great on Linux Now try `sudo iw dev wlan0 del` and the kernel will deadlock :)