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Diplomatic immunity is absolute. Even committing war crimes doesn't rescind it. His diplomatic immunity will lapse once he's no longer the head of state howeve

Diplomatic immunity is absolute. Even committing war crimes doesn't rescind it. His diplomatic immunity will lapse once he's no longer the head of state however. EDIT: Pretty sure that they are personas-non-grata in each other's country at this point, which is a specifically described scenario in the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. So no, of course Zelensky couldn't enter Russia and expect nothing to happen. An Putin couldn't enter Ukraine with the expectation that his immunity will hold. But both of them could enter any 3rd country with a reasonable expectation of that.

meghan_rain 4y ago
Oh so Zelensky could just travel to Moscow? And nothing would happen to him? Since he has diplomatic immunity as the president of Ukraine? Whatever your answer will be, replace "Zelensky" in it with "Putin" and see if you would still stand behind it.
- gus_massa 4y ago
  I think that the GP means something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Augusto_Pinochet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Augus... He had no arrest warrants by the ICC, but he had a few open causes in a few countries that were ... dismissed by the British government.
tomjen3 4y ago
It requires the receiving country to accept it, which in practical terms means that there are few countries where he could go.
daureg 4y ago
> Diplomatic immunity is absolute That sounds… extreme. Wikipedia lists several examples [1] where a diplomat's immunity was waived by their home country since they committed offense unrelated to their function. And the same seems to be true for head states committing war crimes, as it is unrelated to their function [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity [2]: https://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/are-international-immunities-of-heads-of-state-and-government-officials-undergoing-a-major-change/ https://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/are-international-immunities-...
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  Oh yes, because Putin is going to waive Putin’s diplomatic immunity!

meghan_rain 4y ago

Oh so Zelensky could just travel to Moscow? And nothing would happen to him? Since he has diplomatic immunity as the president of Ukraine? Whatever your answer will be, replace "Zelensky" in it with "Putin" and see if you would still stand behind it.

gus_massa 4y ago
I think that the GP means something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Augusto_Pinochet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment_and_arrest_of_Augus... He had no arrest warrants by the ICC, but he had a few open causes in a few countries that were ... dismissed by the British government.

tomjen3 4y ago

It requires the receiving country to accept it, which in practical terms means that there are few countries where he could go.

daureg 4y ago

> Diplomatic immunity is absolute That sounds… extreme. Wikipedia lists several examples [1] where a diplomat's immunity was waived by their home country since they committed offense unrelated to their function. And the same seems to be true for head states committing war crimes, as it is unrelated to their function [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity [2]: https://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/are-international-immunities-of-heads-of-state-and-government-officials-undergoing-a-major-change/ https://www.diplomacy.edu/blog/are-international-immunities-...

sgjohnson 4y ago
Oh yes, because Putin is going to waive Putin’s diplomatic immunity!