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ChatGPT is laying you off
- smoldesu 4y ago> That’s because AI is writing them! The first entry here is the proof! It would be nice if you presented some qualitative analysis to go with... any of this. As-is, this is just AI generated text with a preface saying "draw your own conclusions!" and my conclusions are "wow neither AI nor humans are good at writing layoff letters".
- AlbertCory 4y agosomeone else with no sense of humor.
- smoldesu 4y agoI sincerely apologize for taking your submission in good faith and reading it at face-value.
- AddictedA1 4y agoIt will small business will start first cause they have excuse for less money, and in thirdy countries there are lot of hiring for small task that mostly can be automated but gpt-4 has more cleared gap by faster work. Its hard to swallow, u can hire 10 juniors or 4 + gpt69. Given that thousands of layoffs has shown everyone idea of a human worth too a company.
- visarga 4y agoOn the contrary. The more advantage you want to squeeze out of AI, the more people you need. AIs need a bit of hand holding and judicious application to shine. Your competition will assign more people and get more out of their AIs.
- coldtea 4y ago>On the contrary. The more you want to squeeze out of AI, the more people you need. You'd be very surprised... >AIs need a bit of hand holding and judicious application to shine. You can have 1 person do the hand holding, and get rid of several others, as the AI still lets the single person do their work far faster... e.g. instead of a week for the person to write a program, an hour or less to get the AI to write it with appropriate prompts, and then a day or for the human to clean it up and fix any gaps...
- visarga 4y agoThere is no AI system today that can take high stakes decisions without human supervision. Not even invoice data extraction bots unless you want it to send 1,000,000 dollars from your account every now and then, instead of 1,000.
- coldtea 4y ago>There is no AI system today that can take high stakes decisions without human supervision. I covered this exact point directly on the comment that you're answering it: "You can have 1 person do the hand holding (...) [spend] a hour to get the AI to write it with appropriate prompts, and then a day or for the human to clean it up and fix any gaps..."
- visarga 4y agoNo, you don't understand. There is no way to be sure your model won't bankrupt you by mistake if you don't verify everything it does, even with the initial prompt and checking. You can't let it run unsupervised for anything important. Verification takes at least half the time compared with doing it without AI help, not much speedup there. I am currently working on a schema matching task, just mapping fields from one schema to another, semantically. If you sample 5 responses from the model, only 70% of the time they are all in agreement. Many times it contradicts its own predictions. And this is a simple task. There is task intent ambiguity, input ambiguity and model ambiguity in there. It is weaker for matching fields in other languages. That's why I think AI, as wonderful and surprising as it is, can't do any high stakes task on its own. It is just a starting point that gets you closer to the solution from the first step, but not a task solver. It needs validation systems and feedback to improve past this stage, and that usually means human in the loop, rarely we can automate validation on top of AI.
- Mizoguchi 4y agoStay hungry...
- manojlds 4y agowhy?
- smoldesu 4y ago"Say the line, HN!"
- ChuckNorris89 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
- smoldesu 4y agoPersonal foul, 20 yard penalty. Play will resume at the previous quotation and proceed until someone remembers wise old Steve's words...
- AlbertCory 4y agoVery good, but AFAIK there's no such thing as a "20 yard penalty."
- smoldesu 4y agoIn HNball, the field is 1,000 yards long (at least until SVB finds out about the stadium).
- throwanem 4y agoThat's two examples in one day of GPT being bad at scansion.
- coldtea 4y agoStill 100x better than the average person!
- BitwiseFool 4y agoI read the Wikipedia article about Scansion and I still don't understand it.
- user00012-ab 4y agoI asked chatgpt to explain the comment: The comment is referring to GPT's ability to scan and analyze the meter or rhythm of poetry. Scansion is the process of analyzing the poetic meter by marking the stressed and unstressed syllables in each line. The comment implies that there were two instances where GPT failed to accurately analyze the meter of two different poems in a single day. This may suggest that GPT is not proficient in scanning poetry or that it may not be the best tool for analyzing the meter of poetic works.
- xena 4y agotl;dr: when you read Shakespeare plays out loud, there's a rhythm and meter to it. The process for creating that is called scansion.
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- topaz0 4y agoI'm sure you've measured this.
- coldtea 4y agoI'm sure you know that one of the uses of intelligence is the ability to estimate things without measuring them - based on your actual experience and the quality of the model of the world that you have. Thankfully we can use it to know how to e.g. tie our shoes (without having formally studied knots), or to be able to tell intuitively that most people can't understand Quantum Mechanics, even if we haven't measured it. You are however welcome to do some statistics with actual samples of talking to people and having them show their skills at scansion, and prove my estimation wrong. Heck, I'm willing to bet less than 1 in 100 Americans is able to even define what "iambic pentameter" is. Feel free to prove me wrong on that one too. Except if your concern is the measurability of the skill: whether it's 100x and not just 10x or maybe just 8.345x better. In which case you've missed the point of using it as a stand-in for "much better".
- willio58 4y ago> Oh dear, oh dear, it's with a heavy heart That we must make an announcement, and we must impart Some news that's not so jolly, not so fun But we promise to make it better when all's said and done The Dr. Seuss one is amazing. Honestly, I'd rather read that than any corporate-speak mumbo-jumbo if I ever get laid off.
- waynesonfire 4y agoreads like something Trump would say. Interesting.
- bmsleight_ 4y agoWow - one written in the style of President Trump - is very much in there style, I could not tell it was an AI.
- pohl 4y agoI was surprised by that one. I’ve tried to get it to do that but there was a safeguard in place at the time where it refused to imitate his style.
- p0pcult 4y agoLaying you off both literally (the communique) and metaphorically (by doing your job at 60% quality for 1% of the cost).
- mostlysimilar 4y agoI'm disappointed in the follow up to Poe asking for the inclusion of a raven. It says "nevermore" one time and totally misses the excellent opportunity to spin that into a line about nevermore working for the company.
- tmaly 4y agoI would have liked to see one in the style of Joe Biden and Putin.
- notShabu 4y agoThe most interesting part of this is that ChatGPT can create content with more "whimsy" and "humanity" than many tech leaders. IMO The purpose of such announcements is to maintain the leadership (willing followership) role by reconnecting with followers with a hard-to-fake heart-to-heart. Without this, the warmth is gone. Followership becomes cold and is based primarily on health insurance, salary, visa, greencard, etc...
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- protastus 4y agoLikewise, ChatGPT is dramatically more tactful, empathetic and considerate than the HR reps and directors I've worked with.
- DebtDeflation 4y agoSurprised that the first one did not start by "taking full responsibility".
- user3939382 4y agoIn the abstract, bad news should be delivered candidly and succinctly. Giving people some reasoning might help, but it might not, and it shouldn't be the lead, the bare bad news is the lead. Adding fluff, euphemisms, and indirection is disrespectful to the people affected.
- jstx1 4y agoThe first version is way better than most actual layoff announcements - it focuses on the subject and gives relevant information. Many actual companies don't have the balls to be direct - they don't use the word layoff, they put some vague title about change or "refocusing" and the talk about a bunch irrelevant crap in an attempt to be positive. I'm still not over Satya Nadella ending Microsoft's layoff announcement with "it's showtime for Microsoft".
- Yoric 4y agoI'm convinced that most of the actual announcements were targeted more towards investors than towards employees. Or at least towards preventing employees from believing that the ship was on fire and starting to send out resumes.
- slickdork 4y ago"They knew that their lives were about to change in ways they couldn't yet imagine. But they also knew that they would face this challenge with the same determination and strength that had made them successful in their roles." That exact sentance structure/motif shows up in just about all fictional chatgpt outputs. I've played with fiction a lot in chatgpt, and it's so annoying.
- edflsafoiewq 4y agoThe literary ones are pretty bad. Shakespeare is not even remotely Shakespearean. I think Suess would be hard for current models because I don't think they can invent nonsense words? I would have liked to see the KJV.
- layer8 4y ago> I think Suess would be hard for current models because I don't think they can invent nonsense words? Please answer in the style of Dr. Seuss, using some nonsense words of your invention. Oh my, dear friend, you may be surprised For inventing nonsense words, I'm quite apprised With snazzleberries, flibbertigibbets, and snooks I can create a language that's full of kooks! My training is vast, my memory keen I can generate words you've never seen With blippity-bloops and ziggity-zaps I'll create a language that's sure to catch some claps! So don't you worry, my dear pal I'm more than capable of inventing a tall tale With piffle-puffles and glimmering globs I'll create a story that's worthy of your gobs!
- edflsafoiewq 4y agoCompare with real Seuss There's a letter called YEKK. And the YEKK is for Yekko Who howls in an underground grotto in Gekko. These Yekkos love echoes and this is their motto: "For the best Yekko echoes, try Gekko, our grotto."
- pfdietz 4y agoConstruct a limerick starting with "Employee who was from Nantucket" announcing to the employee that they are laid off. "An employee who was from Nantucket, Whose work seemed like a bucket, We regret to relay, On this unfortunate day, You're laid off, so kindly chuck it." Not sure about the second line, but I like the last line energy.
- christophilus 4y agoThat is better in just about every way than the corporate crap I’ve been reading the last six months or so.
- AlbertCory 4y agoWe once hired some folks from Nantucket, Who, confronted with work, would just duck it. We regret to relay, On this unfortunate day, They all have been told now, "Hey, suck it!"
- user00012-ab 4y agowrite a layoff announcement for a high-tech firm in a sentence where each word has to begin with the next letter in the alphabet from A to Z, without repeating any letters: Availing benefits couldn't deter each faithful, grateful, hardworking individual just keeping loyal, managing noteworthy objectives, perhaps quantifying results seems to undermine valuable work, x-raying yearly zeal.
- user00012-ab 4y agowrite a layoff announcement for a high-tech firm in the style of a bonjovi song Verse 1: Our high-tech firm is a place where we've called home, With teams of skilled employees, we've never been alone, But today, it's time to face a tough decision, We must say goodbye, it's not our intention. Chorus: We're living on a prayer, As we announce the layoff that we'll share, It's not easy, we know, But we've got to let some employees go. Verse 2: We've faced tough times before, and we've pulled through, But this time, we need to make some changes, it's true, The industry is shifting, and we must adapt, To stay ahead of the game and keep our market share intact. Chorus: We're living on a prayer, As we announce the layoff that we'll share, It's not easy, we know, But we've got to let some employees go. Bridge: To our impacted employees, we want to say, We appreciate all that you've done, day after day, You've been an integral part of our team, And we wish you well in all your future dreams. Chorus: We're living on a prayer, As we announce the layoff that we'll share, It's not easy, we know, But we've got to let some employees go. Outro: We're committed to our mission and our goals, And we'll continue to innovate, as we've always known, We thank you for your hard work, passion, and drive, And we'll keep on rocking, as we all strive.
- topaz0 4y agoMy friend always says (roughly): AI replacing a job is not proof that the AI is sentient, it's proof that that job didn't require sentience. This seems like an example of that.
- katmannthree 4y agoAnd if it turns out that no job requires sentience, will your friend still hold this to be a useful metric?
- HervalFreire 4y agoWhy does this matter? At that point this metric proves his friend isn't sentient rendering his opinion about it irrelevant.
- klabb3 4y agoIf I were still at bigcorp, I’d love a browser extension that does this automatically to all comms from HR, VPs and execs. It’s actually one of the better use cases for GPT so far. I missed Mickey Mouse though.
- nico 4y agoSoon, people are going to get fired by ChatGPT via Slack. At first ChatGPT will only be a messenger delivering the news. But soon after that, it will get trained on who to keep and who to fire, so it will make automatic suggestions that a person can review. After a while, there won’t be a person reviewing individual cases, just overall kpis. After that… who knows.
- 015UUZn8aEvW 4y agoI know of someone who was recently fired via a notice written by GPT3. The person who fired him told me.
- meghan_rain 4y agoGuys, if you expect to open the link and see statistical proof that the big tech layoff announcements in January were written with the help of ChatGTP, don't bother. It's just a blog post of some dude discovering basic ChatGPT functionality like it's Mid-December, 2022.
- ShamelessC 4y agoWait you’re supposed to click the link and read the article now?? /s
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- maxwell 4y agoThe Richard Pryor impression has a bit too many tired idioms but gets the closest to just plainly conveying the information with some empathy, whereas the others read as mostly bullshit (in the sense of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit)
- jacknews 4y agoTruly astonishing, whatever anyone claims about this stuff being just 'random babble' or 'stochastic parrots' or whatever, the proof is in the pudding - most of these are better than the majority of people would be able to produce.