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College degrees are not job training programs.

by mulmen 4y ago

jfengel 4y ago
They certainly shouldn't be. Unfortunately a lot of employers require it without knowing why. They could often get cheaper employees with sufficient technical skills. I am a big fan of what college can bring, to the interested student. But that stuff is hard to test for and often isn't what employers are interviewing for. (And when they do, they often lump it under "culture fit", which is too often used to exclude people based on their prejudices.)
- mulmen 4y ago
  Being a prerequisite is not the same as training.
tgv 4y ago
This post should not get more attention. It's edginess for clickbait's sake by someone who doesn't value education, and doesn't understand that you have to learn more than the basics to get a good grip on the basics, nor that other skills can be useful if you want to understand more, both in breadth and in depth. Only if you know the future, you can skip irrelevant classes. E.g., I had classes in computer architecture and had to write microcode to implement IEEE754 on an IBM/360. Do I ever use that in real life? Obviously not. Did it make me understand a bit better how CPUs work? Yes. Would it be useful for people who want to make a career in hardware? Certainly.
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  That just sounds like incentives are not aligned properly. If your goal is to get a job, then you’re not going to prioritize ”[valuing] education”, you’re going to prioritize the things needed to get that job. The problem isn’t that the OP doesn’t value education; that’s not even a problem, it’s entirely a personal choice. Some people just don’t value that, and it’s ok. The actual problem is that employers require a 4 year degree which means that everyone wanting that job now has to do a 4 year degree whether they’re want to or not. And that degree is never going to be tailored to those just wanting a job; that’s what trade schools are for.

College degrees are not job training programs.

by mulmen 4y ago

College degrees are not job training programs.

They certainly shouldn't be. Unfortunately a lot of employers require it without knowing why. They could often get cheaper employees with sufficient technical skills. I am a big fan of what college can bring, to the interested student. But that stuff is hard to test for and often isn't what employers are interviewing for. (And when they do, they often lump it under "culture fit", which is too often used to exclude people based on their prejudices.)

mulmen 4y ago
Being a prerequisite is not the same as training.

tgv 4y ago

This post should not get more attention. It's edginess for clickbait's sake by someone who doesn't value education, and doesn't understand that you have to learn more than the basics to get a good grip on the basics, nor that other skills can be useful if you want to understand more, both in breadth and in depth. Only if you know the future, you can skip irrelevant classes. E.g., I had classes in computer architecture and had to write microcode to implement IEEE754 on an IBM/360. Do I ever use that in real life? Obviously not. Did it make me understand a bit better how CPUs work? Yes. Would it be useful for people who want to make a career in hardware? Certainly.

mynameisvlad 4y ago
That just sounds like incentives are not aligned properly. If your goal is to get a job, then you’re not going to prioritize ”[valuing] education”, you’re going to prioritize the things needed to get that job. The problem isn’t that the OP doesn’t value education; that’s not even a problem, it’s entirely a personal choice. Some people just don’t value that, and it’s ok. The actual problem is that employers require a 4 year degree which means that everyone wanting that job now has to do a 4 year degree whether they’re want to or not. And that degree is never going to be tailored to those just wanting a job; that’s what trade schools are for.