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> This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. The pricing here is in line with other DB management tools. He's competing with things like Prese

> This is in the $5/mo category not the $50/user/mo category. The pricing here is in line with other DB management tools. He's competing with things like Preset (a hosted Apache Superset), DataGrip (JetBrains SQL IDE), and so on. > You're saying the value provided is 4x the entire Microsoft Suite + OneDrive + Exchange (for example). If you work with data a lot, the answer is a resounding yes. Email, storage and word processing has a larger target market and is actually quite competitive despite Google and Microsoft's large marketshare (LibreOffice, Zoho, Kingsoft, Dropboxish stuff, Proton Mail, etc...)

bluelightning2k 4y ago
This is strong evidence that I am not the user & the pricing may indeed stack up. A good response for sure.
- bluelightning2k 4y ago
  Actually looking into it - I still think it's way off. Looking at DataGrip for example, it's only cost comparable if you want the ultra-comprehensive version for connecting to multiple database types (otherwise it's 3x more expensive). And DataGrip is clearly only intended for professional DBA's or something close. This is intended to business-users. There's also going to be crazy price pressure from GPT4 tools in this segment. Like justifying why having a UI is better and why it should be 10x more expensive all at once. I think there's a systemic issue here: YC strongly advises raising prices, etc. but it's just hit almost a satirical level. (Launch with MVP-ish features, less distribution advantages, but aim for slightly-premium pricing vs the proven competitors with 500 integrations and 10 years of development).
  - indymike 4y ago
    Could be, but if you look at Preset, you are dealing with honestly a parity product as far as I can tell. > There's also going to be crazy price pressure from GPT4 tools in this segment. Not really, error rate must = 0 for database tools.

bluelightning2k 4y ago

This is strong evidence that I am not the user & the pricing may indeed stack up. A good response for sure.

bluelightning2k 4y ago
Actually looking into it - I still think it's way off. Looking at DataGrip for example, it's only cost comparable if you want the ultra-comprehensive version for connecting to multiple database types (otherwise it's 3x more expensive). And DataGrip is clearly only intended for professional DBA's or something close. This is intended to business-users. There's also going to be crazy price pressure from GPT4 tools in this segment. Like justifying why having a UI is better and why it should be 10x more expensive all at once. I think there's a systemic issue here: YC strongly advises raising prices, etc. but it's just hit almost a satirical level. (Launch with MVP-ish features, less distribution advantages, but aim for slightly-premium pricing vs the proven competitors with 500 integrations and 10 years of development).
- indymike 4y ago
  Could be, but if you look at Preset, you are dealing with honestly a parity product as far as I can tell. > There's also going to be crazy price pressure from GPT4 tools in this segment. Not really, error rate must = 0 for database tools.