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I have two thoughts about this. First is who cares about large corporations? Sure large corporations have the money to buy licensed software, but I know plenty

I have two thoughts about this. First is who cares about large corporations? Sure large corporations have the money to buy licensed software, but I know plenty of small-to-medium corporations that operate on pirated software. Second is your statement doesn't mean anything at all. Yes, you can enact a policy in your corporation that no one is allowed to use AI tools like Copilot to write code, but how do you monitor this? How do you know if some developer did use Copilot? This all feels like complete lip service with no actual force behind it. I am 100% sure that even my corporation's code base already contains stuff written with help of an AI, but there is also no question that the code is fully copyrighted.

ayewo 4y ago
> Yes, you can enact a policy in your corporation that no one is allowed to use AI tools like Copilot to write code, but how do you monitor this? How do you know if some developer did use Copilot? That’s easy: corporate firewalls that block all traffic to openai.com, its subdomains and the IP ranges used by GitHub Copilot. Enterprises that care about exfiltration of code from their internal networks (e.g. banks and other heavily regulated entities) typically hand out computers that are locked down to their employees, including developers. So any engineer that wants to install the GitHub Copilot extension or indeed any non-approved third party extension from the VSCode Marketplace will first have a word with the folks in IT.
- marcus_holmes 4y ago
  yeah but you could get the AI to write the code on your personal laptop, then copy it over to the work laptop. I can see this being a thing.. "I have three jobs as Senior Engineer for three different organisations. All I do is copy code from an AI engine to my work laptop all day"
  - amon22 4y ago
    I guess that could happen and we will definitely see some people try this. But in the grand scheme of things, it will be exceptionally rare. Most developers can't work outside their developer environment set up by their company, they often rely on internal tools, services hosted on the internal network, stuff like that. If stackoverflow and google didn't cause this to happen, I don't see how GPT will.
    - nextlevelwizard 4y ago
      >Most developers can't work outside their developer environment set up by their company Are you kidding me? Is this really how you see our industry? You really think that most developers literally can not do work without their company's IT setting up their machine? Is this normal? This to me sounds like you are saying most devs are such noobs that they can't do their jobs.
- nextlevelwizard 4y ago
  > corporate firewalls Yeah, just like how last week I requested IT to open up twitch.tv so I can watch programming live streams over lunch, but I was denied (however Youtube is wide open, so I could just watch the VODs anyway) and instead I just used my phone's data to watch twitch on lunch. If corporate firewall is anything but a slight inconvenience for you then you are not technical. Last part is such nosense I can't even respond.

ayewo 4y ago

> Yes, you can enact a policy in your corporation that no one is allowed to use AI tools like Copilot to write code, but how do you monitor this? How do you know if some developer did use Copilot? That’s easy: corporate firewalls that block all traffic to openai.com, its subdomains and the IP ranges used by GitHub Copilot. Enterprises that care about exfiltration of code from their internal networks (e.g. banks and other heavily regulated entities) typically hand out computers that are locked down to their employees, including developers. So any engineer that wants to install the GitHub Copilot extension or indeed any non-approved third party extension from the VSCode Marketplace will first have a word with the folks in IT.

marcus_holmes 4y ago
yeah but you could get the AI to write the code on your personal laptop, then copy it over to the work laptop. I can see this being a thing.. "I have three jobs as Senior Engineer for three different organisations. All I do is copy code from an AI engine to my work laptop all day"
- amon22 4y ago
  I guess that could happen and we will definitely see some people try this. But in the grand scheme of things, it will be exceptionally rare. Most developers can't work outside their developer environment set up by their company, they often rely on internal tools, services hosted on the internal network, stuff like that. If stackoverflow and google didn't cause this to happen, I don't see how GPT will.
  - nextlevelwizard 4y ago
    >Most developers can't work outside their developer environment set up by their company Are you kidding me? Is this really how you see our industry? You really think that most developers literally can not do work without their company's IT setting up their machine? Is this normal? This to me sounds like you are saying most devs are such noobs that they can't do their jobs.
nextlevelwizard 4y ago
> corporate firewalls Yeah, just like how last week I requested IT to open up twitch.tv so I can watch programming live streams over lunch, but I was denied (however Youtube is wide open, so I could just watch the VODs anyway) and instead I just used my phone's data to watch twitch on lunch. If corporate firewall is anything but a slight inconvenience for you then you are not technical. Last part is such nosense I can't even respond.