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A quibble: Even a non-unionized laborer in the US can't live on $10 a day. Unions didn't destroy American manufacturing, the economy did.

by Cushman 15y ago

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Retric 15y ago
I don't think most foxcon workers are actually paid 10$ a day (it's less than that). But, exchange rates are odd things, you can live on 2$ a day worth of food in the US and buying the same food in China gives one exchange rate, but comparing housing gives vary different exchange rates. Basically, working in one of those factory's sucks more than any job you ever had and pays a lot less. But, in that economy your still far from starvation. If you want a real eye opener just compare how long it takes to buy a lifetimes worth of food in the US. 70 years * 2$ a day * 365 days a year = 51,000$. Clean water is so cheap in the US it's hard to fathom, in much of the world and most of most of history it was a major issue.
- AllenKids 15y ago
  The most low level line workers are paid 1750+200+(100~800)+OT=more than ￥2500/month that's $13 a day. So you think wrong. The problem are hazardous working condition and excessive over-time, in the end of course repetitive jobs that have no way up.
  - Retric 15y ago
    Mind if I ask where you get those numbers from? I have seen numbers for base pay, but not base pay + over time or base pay + overtime - taxes. Also, 1750 yuan as base pay still seems rather high after taxes. ex: new recruits would get 1,350 yuan http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/work-j17.shtml http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/work-j17.shtml taxes: http://www.beijingobserver.com/income-tax-calculator-china.html http://www.beijingobserver.com/income-tax-calculator-china.h...
    - AllenKids 15y ago
      I have a relative working at Foxconn's Qunshan factory. His monthly income is about ￥3000, he's been there for 15 month.

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A quibble: Even a non-unionized laborer in the US can't live on $10 a day. Unions didn't destroy American manufacturing, the economy did.

by Cushman 15y ago

A quibble: Even a non-unionized laborer in the US can't live on $10 a day. Unions didn't destroy American manufacturing, the economy did.

deleted 15y ago
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Retric 15y ago
I don't think most foxcon workers are actually paid 10$ a day (it's less than that). But, exchange rates are odd things, you can live on 2$ a day worth of food in the US and buying the same food in China gives one exchange rate, but comparing housing gives vary different exchange rates. Basically, working in one of those factory's sucks more than any job you ever had and pays a lot less. But, in that economy your still far from starvation. If you want a real eye opener just compare how long it takes to buy a lifetimes worth of food in the US. 70 years * 2$ a day * 365 days a year = 51,000$. Clean water is so cheap in the US it's hard to fathom, in much of the world and most of most of history it was a major issue.
- AllenKids 15y ago
  The most low level line workers are paid 1750+200+(100~800)+OT=more than ￥2500/month that's $13 a day. So you think wrong. The problem are hazardous working condition and excessive over-time, in the end of course repetitive jobs that have no way up.
  - Retric 15y ago
    Mind if I ask where you get those numbers from? I have seen numbers for base pay, but not base pay + over time or base pay + overtime - taxes. Also, 1750 yuan as base pay still seems rather high after taxes. ex: new recruits would get 1,350 yuan http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/work-j17.shtml http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jan2012/work-j17.shtml taxes: http://www.beijingobserver.com/income-tax-calculator-china.html http://www.beijingobserver.com/income-tax-calculator-china.h...
    - AllenKids 15y ago
      I have a relative working at Foxconn's Qunshan factory. His monthly income is about ￥3000, he's been there for 15 month.