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From their supplier responsibility site(http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/ http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/): We insist that all of our s

From their supplier responsibility site(http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/ http://www.apple.com/supplierresponsibility/): We insist that all of our suppliers provide safe working conditions Notice the word "insist". How about requiring it? There is a massive difference between insisting and requiring.

ugh 15y ago
Really? That’s your argument?! What?!
smackfu 15y ago
Right, their own report says they are only getting around 75% compliance, and there were two serious accidents in 2011. And this is after five years of these reports...
jarcoal 15y ago
In this world, in this moment, if you want companies to "require" all their suppliers, and their supplier's suppliers, and so on, to have safe working conditions, then computers won't be manufactured. Not a single one, from any brand. Hate to sound like a fanboy, but the very fact that Apple has addressed this issue has put them above and beyond the entire industry.
- protomyth 15y ago
  This type of thing isn't just and electronics industry problem. Running a grain elevator isn't really that safe, and big grain companies spend a lot of time on safety issues for a lot of the same reasons Apple does, but it doesn't prevent the deaths that happen every year (yes, every year in the US). These aren't overall farming deaths, I'm just talking grain elevators. It isn't as sexy as Apple and it is a problem in the US, but everyone needs to eat. The other electronics companies are probably pretty happy Apple is taking all the heat. It should be interesting when the Brazil plant opens.
- greiskul 15y ago
  Yeah, and the reason is, if you do that, your product costs more, and you will beaten by your competition that doesn't have any problems with using slave labour. We do everything we can to make astronauts safe, but don't do a thing to stop subsidizing our products with the lifes of third world workers. It is precisily in this kind of thing where the goverment should meddle in the economy, like it did when it abolished slavery.

ugh 15y ago

Really? That’s your argument?! What?!

smackfu 15y ago

Right, their own report says they are only getting around 75% compliance, and there were two serious accidents in 2011. And this is after five years of these reports...

jarcoal 15y ago

In this world, in this moment, if you want companies to "require" all their suppliers, and their supplier's suppliers, and so on, to have safe working conditions, then computers won't be manufactured. Not a single one, from any brand. Hate to sound like a fanboy, but the very fact that Apple has addressed this issue has put them above and beyond the entire industry.

protomyth 15y ago
This type of thing isn't just and electronics industry problem. Running a grain elevator isn't really that safe, and big grain companies spend a lot of time on safety issues for a lot of the same reasons Apple does, but it doesn't prevent the deaths that happen every year (yes, every year in the US). These aren't overall farming deaths, I'm just talking grain elevators. It isn't as sexy as Apple and it is a problem in the US, but everyone needs to eat. The other electronics companies are probably pretty happy Apple is taking all the heat. It should be interesting when the Brazil plant opens.
greiskul 15y ago
Yeah, and the reason is, if you do that, your product costs more, and you will beaten by your competition that doesn't have any problems with using slave labour. We do everything we can to make astronauts safe, but don't do a thing to stop subsidizing our products with the lifes of third world workers. It is precisily in this kind of thing where the goverment should meddle in the economy, like it did when it abolished slavery.