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> I am really surprised, I don't always agree with the ACLU but I've always seen them as a serious and respectable organization. I honestly wonder if there is e

> I am really surprised, I don't always agree with the ACLU but I've always seen them as a serious and respectable organization. I honestly wonder if there is external influence at play here. People said that when they defended terrorists. People said that when they defended Nazis. People said that (correctly) when they refused to defend Communists. This is a silly point to realize they are in favor of free speech, and believe free speech means that the government can't single out particular speech for consequences. (And yes, requiring someone to stop "engaging in commerce" because of the content of their speech clearly counts as that).

fear_and_coffee 4y ago
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_8j50 4y ago
> government can't single out particular speech for consequences. But that obviously isn't happening as you well know. What particular speech is being singled out against individuals here? "People said that" and so what? The restriction is against a foreign state and agents under its control. It's hard to even argue a court in the US can hear the case given immunities the government enjoys in these situations. The governments right to regulate commerce and foreign relations is in the same constitution that guarantees free speech. Very obviously, no one's political views or speech are persecuted. A US citizen who loves the CCP can become the next owner of tiktok without any issue. What you and this retarded aclu are saying is that a foreign government's ability to conduct business is protected so long as that business allows people to say stuff (with heavy restrictions!)??? I can't believe people donate to this organization. Of all the civil liberities beinf eroded and all the people that can't afford a good lawyer these people choose to waste time and money defending a foreign government.

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> I am really surprised, I don't always agree with the ACLU but I've always seen them as a serious and respectable organization. I honestly wonder if there is e

by iudqnolq 4y ago

fear_and_coffee 4y ago
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_8j50 4y ago
> government can't single out particular speech for consequences. But that obviously isn't happening as you well know. What particular speech is being singled out against individuals here? "People said that" and so what? The restriction is against a foreign state and agents under its control. It's hard to even argue a court in the US can hear the case given immunities the government enjoys in these situations. The governments right to regulate commerce and foreign relations is in the same constitution that guarantees free speech. Very obviously, no one's political views or speech are persecuted. A US citizen who loves the CCP can become the next owner of tiktok without any issue. What you and this retarded aclu are saying is that a foreign government's ability to conduct business is protected so long as that business allows people to say stuff (with heavy restrictions!)??? I can't believe people donate to this organization. Of all the civil liberities beinf eroded and all the people that can't afford a good lawyer these people choose to waste time and money defending a foreign government.