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What's an example of a non-union worker organization that you've seen work well for its members?

eikenberry 4y ago
I'm not sure as I don't belong to any of these but here are some examples (US) that seem like they "work well"... Screen Actors, Directors, Writers all have guilds. Real-estate and Lawyers have decent looking guilds, they just don't call them by name. Doctors, Dentists and Nurses also have guilds (they call them associations).
- thylacine222 4y ago
  SAG, DGA, and WGA are all labor unions. The other cases I'll grant you, but it's less clear what their direct benefit to their members is besides acting as lobbying organizations.
- peruvian 4y ago
  SAC, WAG, etc. are all labor unions similar to the one Bandcamp just created. Don't be confused by the name. -- As for the other examples, what I like about tech is that anyone can join the industry. I think the way attorneys and doctors have set up their profession works for them but it really makes it hard for anyone who didn't choose the golden path to join.
anticensor 4y ago
Professional trade associations, such as chambers of engineers.
- thylacine222 4y ago
  I noticed you were from Turkey -- I've never heard of the phrasing "chamber of engineers", but from Wikipedia, it sounds to be a kind of labor union: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Chambers_of_Turkish_Engineers_and_Architects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Chambers_of_Turkish_E...
  - anticensor 4y ago
    Turkish chambers of engineers are regulated as trade associations with mandatory membership, not as labor unions. Trade associations in Turkey are semi-governmental whereas unions in Turkey are non-governmental, hence this distinction matters a lot here.
    - hezralig 4y ago
      Do unions exist in Turkey or are these trade associations essentially non-legally protected unions?
      - anticensor 4y ago
        Unions exist in Turkey, as a separate type of entity. In fact, Turkish unions even participate in the national minimum wage and public service pay coefficient negotiations.

I'm not sure as I don't belong to any of these but here are some examples (US) that seem like they "work well"... Screen Actors, Directors, Writers all have guilds. Real-estate and Lawyers have decent looking guilds, they just don't call them by name. Doctors, Dentists and Nurses also have guilds (they call them associations).

thylacine222 4y ago
SAG, DGA, and WGA are all labor unions. The other cases I'll grant you, but it's less clear what their direct benefit to their members is besides acting as lobbying organizations.
peruvian 4y ago
SAC, WAG, etc. are all labor unions similar to the one Bandcamp just created. Don't be confused by the name. -- As for the other examples, what I like about tech is that anyone can join the industry. I think the way attorneys and doctors have set up their profession works for them but it really makes it hard for anyone who didn't choose the golden path to join.

anticensor 4y ago

Professional trade associations, such as chambers of engineers.

thylacine222 4y ago
I noticed you were from Turkey -- I've never heard of the phrasing "chamber of engineers", but from Wikipedia, it sounds to be a kind of labor union: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Chambers_of_Turkish_Engineers_and_Architects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Chambers_of_Turkish_E...
- anticensor 4y ago
  Turkish chambers of engineers are regulated as trade associations with mandatory membership, not as labor unions. Trade associations in Turkey are semi-governmental whereas unions in Turkey are non-governmental, hence this distinction matters a lot here.
  - hezralig 4y ago
    Do unions exist in Turkey or are these trade associations essentially non-legally protected unions?
    - anticensor 4y ago
      Unions exist in Turkey, as a separate type of entity. In fact, Turkish unions even participate in the national minimum wage and public service pay coefficient negotiations.