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I humbly submit that ChatGPT cribbed the answer from the internet. I started off with a curve ball. > You > Please explain this joke: Three philosphers walk

by klyrs 4y ago

I humbly submit that ChatGPT cribbed the answer from the internet. I started off with a curve ball. > You > Please explain this joke: Three philosphers walk by a fortune teller's booth at the fair. The fortune teller asks, "do none of you want your fortunes read?" The first philosopher says "I don't know." The second philospher says "I don't know." The third philospher says "No thank you." > ChatGPT > The joke plays on the stereotypical image of philosophers as deep thinkers who constantly question everything. When the fortune teller offers to read their fortunes, the first two philosophers respond with "I don't know" because they are unsure if fortune-telling is a legitimate practice. The third philosopher, however, breaks from the norm and confidently declines the offer. The humor lies in the contrast between the uncertain and contemplative attitudes of the first two philosophers and the straightforward answer of the third. Doesn't get it... let's try replacing "philosopher" with "logician" > ChatGPT > This joke plays with the idea that logicians are known for their analytical and logical thinking, often questioning assumptions and seeking evidence before drawing conclusions. When the fortune teller asks if they want their fortunes read, the first two logicians respond with "I don't know," indicating that they are unsure of the validity of fortune-telling and don't want to base their decisions on uncertain information. The third logician, however, confidently says "No thank you" to the offer, demonstrating his reluctance to rely on supernatural or unprovable claims. Overall, the joke pokes fun at the contrast between logical and mystical ways of thinking. Still doesn't get it... maybe if we undo the logical negation? > You > Please explain this joke: Three logicians walk by a fortune teller's booth at the fair. The fortune teller asks, "do all of you want your fortunes read?" The first logician says "I don't know." The second logician says "I don't know." The third logician says "Yes please." > ChatGPT > This is a play on the logical concept of self-reference and the propensity for logicians to overthink things. The first two logicians are hesitant to answer the question because they are unsure if the others will have their fortunes read, which could change their own answer. The third logician recognizes that regardless of what the others do, they want their fortune read and confidently responds accordingly. It's a humorous take on the precision and analytical thinking often attributed to logicians. Kinda close, but no cigar. Finally, after changing "fortune teller at a fair" to "bartender in a beer garden" offering tequila shots to all, ChatGPT correctly explains the joke. So I re-inverted the logic. > You > Please explain this joke: Three logicians walk by a bartender in a beer garden. The bartender asks, "do none of you want tequila shots?" The first logician says "I don't know." The second logician says "I don't know." The third logician says "No thank you." > ChatGPT The joke plays on the idea that logicians are known for their logical thinking and precision in language. The bartender asks if none of them want tequila shots, to which the first and second logicians respond with "I don't know" because they cannot determine whether the request applies to them or not. The third logician, however, understands the implication and directly answers, "No thank you." The humor lies in the unexpected response of the third logician, who breaks the pattern of not giving a definite answer. ... nope. ChatGPT does not understand this joke.

isoprophlex 4y ago
Well done! Nice investigation. Human logicians 1 : stochastic parrots 0 Did you start each riddle from a fresh conversation by the way? (For idempotency, it remembers prior messages in the same chat session)
- klyrs 4y ago
  > Did you start each riddle from a fresh conversation by the way? Due to my general disinterest in all things marketed as AI, this is literally my first use of chatgpt.
eutectic 4y ago
Did you use the GPT4 version?
- klyrs 4y ago
  I don't know, I used the web interface at chat-gpt.org
  - eutectic 4y ago
    Then no.
comonoid 4y ago
It cannot even answer correctly to "What is heavier: one kilogram of lead or two kilograms of feather?"
jjviana 4y ago
Here is the Bing answer to this version of the question: The joke is based on a logical paradox known as the *barber paradox*¹. The barber paradox is a situation where a statement leads to a contradiction when trying to determine its truth value. In this case, the statement is "none of you want tequila shots?". If none of the logicians want tequila shots, then they should all answer "yes" to confirm the statement. But if any of them answers "yes", then it means that at least one of them wants tequila shots, which contradicts the statement. So they cannot answer "yes". If any of the logicians want tequila shots, then they should answer "no" to deny the statement. But if all of them answer "no", then it means that none of them want tequila shots, which confirms the statement. So they cannot answer "no". The first two logicians avoid this contradiction by answering "I don't know". They are not saying whether they want tequila shots or not, but only whether they know if none of them want tequila shots or not. By answering "I don't know", they are implying that their answer depends on what the other logicians say. The third logician breaks this impasse by answering "No thank you". He is not answering the question directly, but politely declining the offer of tequila shots. By doing so, he reveals that he does not want tequila shots, and also implies that he knows that none of them want tequila shots. This makes his answer consistent with both possibilities: if none of them want tequila shots, he is confirming the statement; if any of them want tequila shots, he is denying the statement. The joke is funny because it plays with the different levels of logic and language involved in answering a simple question. It also shows how logicians can use their skills to avoid contradictions and confusions. ¹: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox

by klyrs 4y ago

isoprophlex 4y ago

Well done! Nice investigation. Human logicians 1 : stochastic parrots 0 Did you start each riddle from a fresh conversation by the way? (For idempotency, it remembers prior messages in the same chat session)

klyrs 4y ago
> Did you start each riddle from a fresh conversation by the way? Due to my general disinterest in all things marketed as AI, this is literally my first use of chatgpt.

eutectic 4y ago

Did you use the GPT4 version?

klyrs 4y ago
I don't know, I used the web interface at chat-gpt.org
- eutectic 4y ago
  Then no.

comonoid 4y ago

It cannot even answer correctly to "What is heavier: one kilogram of lead or two kilograms of feather?"

jjviana 4y ago

Here is the Bing answer to this version of the question: The joke is based on a logical paradox known as the *barber paradox*¹. The barber paradox is a situation where a statement leads to a contradiction when trying to determine its truth value. In this case, the statement is "none of you want tequila shots?". If none of the logicians want tequila shots, then they should all answer "yes" to confirm the statement. But if any of them answers "yes", then it means that at least one of them wants tequila shots, which contradicts the statement. So they cannot answer "yes". If any of the logicians want tequila shots, then they should answer "no" to deny the statement. But if all of them answer "no", then it means that none of them want tequila shots, which confirms the statement. So they cannot answer "no". The first two logicians avoid this contradiction by answering "I don't know". They are not saying whether they want tequila shots or not, but only whether they know if none of them want tequila shots or not. By answering "I don't know", they are implying that their answer depends on what the other logicians say. The third logician breaks this impasse by answering "No thank you". He is not answering the question directly, but politely declining the offer of tequila shots. By doing so, he reveals that he does not want tequila shots, and also implies that he knows that none of them want tequila shots. This makes his answer consistent with both possibilities: if none of them want tequila shots, he is confirming the statement; if any of them want tequila shots, he is denying the statement. The joke is funny because it plays with the different levels of logic and language involved in answering a simple question. It also shows how logicians can use their skills to avoid contradictions and confusions. ¹: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox