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> Boeing and its B787 (and future aircraft) which are using electrical power to pressurize the cabin At this point any change from Boring gives me shivers. Lik

> Boeing and its B787 (and future aircraft) which are using electrical power to pressurize the cabin At this point any change from Boring gives me shivers. Like with MCAS I expect it to be half baked and have at least a couple of incidents before FAA steps in and they have to do something about it. Boeing has completely tarnished its brand name

kube-system 4y ago
Public opinion is not a rigorous method of risk analysis. The alcohol being served on the flight should scare you more than the MCAS.
- noncoml 4y ago
  Are 346 deaths “public opinion” to you?
  - kube-system 4y ago
    That is a more objective measure than a "tarnished brand name". However, if we're comparing, issues with air quality within planes has contributed to accidents as well.
- cramjabsyn 4y ago
  I’m quite certain the redundancies in your average kube system are more robust than those on the MCAS. single sensor for starters
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Not anymore. All MAX8s have two AoA sensors and MCAS software no longer activates in a disagree scenario. If a hundred people died every time a kubernetes cluster served a 503, the human race would be extinct.
- dahdum 4y ago
  > The alcohol being served on the flight should scare you more than the MCAS. The coffee/water/ice scare me more than either of those. A former FA family member told me longer term employees wouldn’t dare touch the stuff.
  - gonehome 4y ago
    Why?
    - Arrath 4y ago
      If the coffee pots, water tanks, etc. are cleaned as rigorously as the same at restaurants and so on, then yeah I could see the desire to only want stuff that came in sealed bottles and touched no ice.
    - kube-system 4y ago
      Potable water tanks are built into the plane, and they're filled from a truck at the gate. Those tanks are cleaned... occasionally. Oh, and the water is usually pumped out via the same bleed air this article is about. Although this article says that "most airlines" serve bottled water for this reason: https://insights.globalspec.com/article/16509/airplane-water-and-wastewater-systems https://insights.globalspec.com/article/16509/airplane-water... Although I have seen it claimed elsewhere that often the coffee and tea are made with water from the tap and not bottled. I suspect it may vary by airline.
tim333 4y ago
I agree Boeing has issues but the 787 air system is good and probably the way forward. I flew one last week and it's nice knowing there aren't fumes in the air. They did have some teething issues with the batteries going on fire but that seems sorted. (fire thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Boeing_787_Dreamliner_grounding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Boeing_787_Dreamliner_gro...)

kube-system 4y ago

Public opinion is not a rigorous method of risk analysis. The alcohol being served on the flight should scare you more than the MCAS.

noncoml 4y ago
Are 346 deaths “public opinion” to you?
- kube-system 4y ago
  That is a more objective measure than a "tarnished brand name". However, if we're comparing, issues with air quality within planes has contributed to accidents as well.
cramjabsyn 4y ago
I’m quite certain the redundancies in your average kube system are more robust than those on the MCAS. single sensor for starters
- kube-system 4y ago
  Not anymore. All MAX8s have two AoA sensors and MCAS software no longer activates in a disagree scenario. If a hundred people died every time a kubernetes cluster served a 503, the human race would be extinct.
dahdum 4y ago
> The alcohol being served on the flight should scare you more than the MCAS. The coffee/water/ice scare me more than either of those. A former FA family member told me longer term employees wouldn’t dare touch the stuff.
- gonehome 4y ago
  Why?
  - Arrath 4y ago
    If the coffee pots, water tanks, etc. are cleaned as rigorously as the same at restaurants and so on, then yeah I could see the desire to only want stuff that came in sealed bottles and touched no ice.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Potable water tanks are built into the plane, and they're filled from a truck at the gate. Those tanks are cleaned... occasionally. Oh, and the water is usually pumped out via the same bleed air this article is about. Although this article says that "most airlines" serve bottled water for this reason: https://insights.globalspec.com/article/16509/airplane-water-and-wastewater-systems https://insights.globalspec.com/article/16509/airplane-water... Although I have seen it claimed elsewhere that often the coffee and tea are made with water from the tap and not bottled. I suspect it may vary by airline.

tim333 4y ago

I agree Boeing has issues but the 787 air system is good and probably the way forward. I flew one last week and it's nice knowing there aren't fumes in the air. They did have some teething issues with the batteries going on fire but that seems sorted. (fire thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Boeing_787_Dreamliner_grounding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Boeing_787_Dreamliner_gro...)