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My main problem is that frankly youtube streaming is technically better, I hoped twitch catches up but I still can't just pause a stream and "catch up" like on

by ilyt 4y ago

My main problem is that frankly youtube streaming is technically better, I hoped twitch catches up but I still can't just pause a stream and "catch up" like on YT, watching archive of currently playing channel (say esport event) is also royal PITA. On YT I can tune hour late, then just jump back to match that happened, watch it, skip the intermissions and catch up, on twitch that's much more complicated. > - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally, girls doing ass up squats in front of the camera for a $3 donation. You cannot avoid this because its part of the platforms "culture" and even your favorite streamers will one day end up watching a clip or something on their stream. This also breeds incels and very toxic chatters. I dunno, I never got suggested one of those during at least last few years. If I scroll for like 3 screens I get some vtubers but that's about it. I think ability to filter out by stream tags would entirely solve the problem > - Ads. Twitch is fighting against ad-blockers. Fine by me, I can bare ads, but what I cannot do is bear 5 ads in a row every 30 minutes. This has gotten a lot worse lately. It is annoying and disruptive to the user experience, and thankfully there are streamers who disable them altogether as they can sustain themselves through subscriptions and donations from chatters. On top of that they often play in absolutely wrong moments. Like getting ad immediately after clicking a new stream, before you even know whether you want to watch them or not.

atsjie 4y ago
The comments and community feeling in Youtube streaming sucks. Ludwig who made the switch a year ago from Twitch to Youtube said that was his biggest nuisance with Youtube, and I agree. I stopped watching him because of it since there's more fun to be had on Twitch. Twitch is more like a bunch of monkeys which is fun and builds hype. Youtube is too serious and the chat is too slow for the streamer to properly interact with.
- enlyth 4y ago
  Something about Twitch chat is magical, even though it is commonly just walls of copypasta, it feels like participating in a real, authentic audience. Often times it is more entertaining that the stream itself, just like on HN you would rush to the comments before even reading TFA to see what other people are saying. I can't quite pinpoint why YouTube doesn't have the same feeling though.
  - starkparker 4y ago
    YouTube's UI doesn't facilitate it. YT chat is for textual chat, but clunky and staid, which is a very Google thing to implement. Twitch chat is for emoting, especially in ways that please the streamer. Trying to actually chat with someone on an active Twitch channel is futile.
  - wil421 4y ago
    It feels like teen chat rooms on AOL with more flair. Except I don’t remember the hordes ganging up on and harassing people on AOL.
    - WJW 4y ago
      There was plenty of ganging up on AOL too, if you were even a little bit outside what "mainstream AOL" people thought was acceptable.
      - wil421 4y ago
        You could just leave the chat or sign off. Hard to do when some people are all about doxing and swatting nowadays.
  - hbn 4y ago
    Well for one thing Twitch has the advantage of being primarily gaming-focused, whereas YouTube is at its core a generic video host with no particular focus. But YouTube has also completely destroyed their entire concept of having a "YouTube community" over the years. There might be something of various creator communities in various niches, but the heavy censorship, mess of a comments section that does everything in its power to halt any form of conversation, leaving only spam and idiots in most comment sections, etc. left it with nothing of a community, or any real creator/consumer dynamic. YouTube no longer has private nor direct messages, so if people want to communicate they have to do it on another platform. It's also just a bit of a mess with the transition from the original idea of "everyone has an anonymous handle" to "every must have their Google+ profile linked and use their real name" to "Google+ is dead and now some people have silly handles and some people are real people." The whole thing adds up to make for a place with no coherent community.
- bink 4y ago
  It's been forever since I've looked at comments on either site, but hearing that youtube comments are "too serious" caused a double take. Hasn't that site always been known for the toxicity of its comments?
hgsgm 4y ago
Video ads are important for reminding you to change your eye focus to a different distance, stretch your legs, and go pee

by ilyt 4y ago

atsjie 4y ago

The comments and community feeling in Youtube streaming sucks. Ludwig who made the switch a year ago from Twitch to Youtube said that was his biggest nuisance with Youtube, and I agree. I stopped watching him because of it since there's more fun to be had on Twitch. Twitch is more like a bunch of monkeys which is fun and builds hype. Youtube is too serious and the chat is too slow for the streamer to properly interact with.

enlyth 4y ago
Something about Twitch chat is magical, even though it is commonly just walls of copypasta, it feels like participating in a real, authentic audience. Often times it is more entertaining that the stream itself, just like on HN you would rush to the comments before even reading TFA to see what other people are saying. I can't quite pinpoint why YouTube doesn't have the same feeling though.
- starkparker 4y ago
  YouTube's UI doesn't facilitate it. YT chat is for textual chat, but clunky and staid, which is a very Google thing to implement. Twitch chat is for emoting, especially in ways that please the streamer. Trying to actually chat with someone on an active Twitch channel is futile.
- wil421 4y ago
  It feels like teen chat rooms on AOL with more flair. Except I don’t remember the hordes ganging up on and harassing people on AOL.
  - WJW 4y ago
    There was plenty of ganging up on AOL too, if you were even a little bit outside what "mainstream AOL" people thought was acceptable.
    - wil421 4y ago
      You could just leave the chat or sign off. Hard to do when some people are all about doxing and swatting nowadays.
- hbn 4y ago
  Well for one thing Twitch has the advantage of being primarily gaming-focused, whereas YouTube is at its core a generic video host with no particular focus. But YouTube has also completely destroyed their entire concept of having a "YouTube community" over the years. There might be something of various creator communities in various niches, but the heavy censorship, mess of a comments section that does everything in its power to halt any form of conversation, leaving only spam and idiots in most comment sections, etc. left it with nothing of a community, or any real creator/consumer dynamic. YouTube no longer has private nor direct messages, so if people want to communicate they have to do it on another platform. It's also just a bit of a mess with the transition from the original idea of "everyone has an anonymous handle" to "every must have their Google+ profile linked and use their real name" to "Google+ is dead and now some people have silly handles and some people are real people." The whole thing adds up to make for a place with no coherent community.
bink 4y ago
It's been forever since I've looked at comments on either site, but hearing that youtube comments are "too serious" caused a double take. Hasn't that site always been known for the toxicity of its comments?

hgsgm 4y ago

Video ads are important for reminding you to change your eye focus to a different distance, stretch your legs, and go pee