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Looks promising, and approaching the quality of Panic's Mac products. But then I saw it's subscriptionware. Nope. I don't use subscriptionware for my persona

Looks promising, and approaching the quality of Panic's Mac products. But then I saw it's subscriptionware. Nope. I don't use subscriptionware for my personal computing. And the billion-dollar healthcare company I work for doesn't do software subscription unless you're Microsoft, or similarly indispensable. Startups need not apply. At least the pricing is clear and mostly visible, except for the enterprise tier. Much better than most subscription offerings these days that have even the lowest tiers locked behind a phone call.

burcs 4y ago
First off, that might be the best compliment I have received, I love Panic and all that they do. I hear you, you can use us for free if you are a personal user. Meaning one connection, 5 saved queries, and a one dashboard. However, we want to be able to support users as they scale with their queries our expenses add up too. I hope you understand!
kajecounterhack 4y ago
Yeah but startups aren't going to make billion dollar valuations selling to you (or me) anyway. Subscriptions are for enterprises.
rytill 4y ago
Can you describe how this software could sustainably be developed to serve you, and where you would fit in to that ecosystem? How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money? Are you implying that if their software was open source, with a self-hostable version, you would use that, and contribute back to the community, which would provide them some service value?
- akho 4y ago
  By selling perpetual per-seat licenses and an integration contract, same as everybody else who works with corporations. It’s not exactly novel. Software existed before subscriptions. I don’t think the GP comment mentioned open source in any way.
- bachmeier 4y ago
  > How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money? Just FYI, many companies sell software at less than $600/user/year.

burcs 4y ago

First off, that might be the best compliment I have received, I love Panic and all that they do. I hear you, you can use us for free if you are a personal user. Meaning one connection, 5 saved queries, and a one dashboard. However, we want to be able to support users as they scale with their queries our expenses add up too. I hope you understand!

kajecounterhack 4y ago

Yeah but startups aren't going to make billion dollar valuations selling to you (or me) anyway. Subscriptions are for enterprises.

rytill 4y ago

Can you describe how this software could sustainably be developed to serve you, and where you would fit in to that ecosystem? How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money? Are you implying that if their software was open source, with a self-hostable version, you would use that, and contribute back to the community, which would provide them some service value?

akho 4y ago
By selling perpetual per-seat licenses and an integration contract, same as everybody else who works with corporations. It’s not exactly novel. Software existed before subscriptions. I don’t think the GP comment mentioned open source in any way.
bachmeier 4y ago
> How would someone who makes software to help you interact with your database and write queries using AI buy food and pay rent, if they didn’t already have money? Just FYI, many companies sell software at less than $600/user/year.