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This touches on a big reason why it's so hard for me to get on board with generative AI. The hype around it is pretty much the same as the hype I saw with NFTs

This touches on a big reason why it's so hard for me to get on board with generative AI. The hype around it is pretty much the same as the hype I saw with NFTs, complete with a community lacking any awareness of just how uninteresting, if not downright bad, their "art" was. We went from bad pixel art to people making some lame picture of two people holding hands in a foggy cyberpunk setting. The hands aren't the problem. There, I said it. The hands were never a big deal, just the most visible symptom of the actual problem. The problem is that AI art sucks and these people are too self-deluded to realize that because they want to believe that they have a shot at making that coveted internet money. Otherwise, honestly, the tech behind AI art is actually pretty fascinating, it's just that the community is absolutely the worst.

scrollaway 4y ago
> The problem is that AI art sucks Uh, no. I mean, what sucks and doesn't suck in art is subjective, but you're objectively wrong because, quite simply: A lot of people like AI art. A colleague of mine is way into doing AI art and does pretty amazing stuff. eg: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/1043616493474156554/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/10... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/1051417172955639828/05458-1831326428-lovecraftian_santa_claus_intricate_highly_detailed_1970s_scifi_novel_cover_art_by_raymond_swanland_and_peter_elson_.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/10... "It can't do hands"… well, don't f*king draw hands with it then. It's like complaining that my hammer doesn't make good pizza… you know what I do to solve that?
1attice 4y ago
You desperately want this to be hype. You, like me, have an intrinsic investment in the idea of human supremacy. Neither the popularity of produced artifacts nor the rate of improvement support your cynicism. The gap between the world you want to inhabit and the one that is being born is widening.
jkubicek 4y ago
> This touches on a big reason why it's so hard for me to get on board with generative AI. The hype around it is pretty much the same as the hype I saw with NFTs, complete with a community lacking any awareness of just how uninteresting, if not downright bad, their "art" was. I strongly disagree. NFTs were always ugly and useless. Generative AI is useful and valuable right this minute. I'll even concede that the output from these systems is mostly ugly, but for many use cases, that's OK. Given the choice between nothing, extremely cheap custom art that looks OK, and commissioning a proper artist to draw exactly what we want, I think generative AI is going to be the clear winner most of the time. If you're a contract artist who does work for small companies and individuals, I don't see a future where generative AI doesn't severely undercut your business.
macrolime 4y ago
The bad hands is just a symptom of a tool small model. Larger models doesn't have this issue.

scrollaway 4y ago

> The problem is that AI art sucks Uh, no. I mean, what sucks and doesn't suck in art is subjective, but you're objectively wrong because, quite simply: A lot of people like AI art. A colleague of mine is way into doing AI art and does pretty amazing stuff. eg: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/1043616493474156554/image.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/10... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/1051417172955639828/05458-1831326428-lovecraftian_santa_claus_intricate_highly_detailed_1970s_scifi_novel_cover_art_by_raymond_swanland_and_peter_elson_.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552952459958550548/10... "It can't do hands"… well, don't f*king draw hands with it then. It's like complaining that my hammer doesn't make good pizza… you know what I do to solve that?

1attice 4y ago

You desperately want this to be hype. You, like me, have an intrinsic investment in the idea of human supremacy. Neither the popularity of produced artifacts nor the rate of improvement support your cynicism. The gap between the world you want to inhabit and the one that is being born is widening.

jkubicek 4y ago

> This touches on a big reason why it's so hard for me to get on board with generative AI. The hype around it is pretty much the same as the hype I saw with NFTs, complete with a community lacking any awareness of just how uninteresting, if not downright bad, their "art" was. I strongly disagree. NFTs were always ugly and useless. Generative AI is useful and valuable right this minute. I'll even concede that the output from these systems is mostly ugly, but for many use cases, that's OK. Given the choice between nothing, extremely cheap custom art that looks OK, and commissioning a proper artist to draw exactly what we want, I think generative AI is going to be the clear winner most of the time. If you're a contract artist who does work for small companies and individuals, I don't see a future where generative AI doesn't severely undercut your business.

macrolime 4y ago

The bad hands is just a symptom of a tool small model. Larger models doesn't have this issue.