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open source developers shouldn't have to police this, companies should just follow the licenses from the beginning. GPL doesn't say you must provide source cod

by 2h 4y ago

open source developers shouldn't have to police this, companies should just follow the licenses from the beginning. GPL doesn't say you must provide source code once you get caught, it says you must publish it the moment you release a derivative work.

ozornin 4y ago
> companies should just follow the licenses from the beginning Sure, should. Some don't. So, developers and activists also need to be policing it.
elygre 4y ago
I don’t think the gpl requires you to publish source code. It requires you to make it available on request. Thus it’s not a question about getting caught, but whether someone made a request.
- klabb3 4y ago
  There’s a requirement to include the license with the product, isn’t there? I’d hope removing a license is actually a pretty serious offense.
  - deleted 4y ago
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- 2h 4y ago
  maybe you should find out, before spreading misinformation: > require that programs distributed as pre-compiled binaries be accompanied by a copy of the source code, a written offer to distribute the source code via the same mechanism as the pre-compiled binary, or the written offer to obtain the source code that the user got when they received the pre-compiled binary under the GPL. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions https://wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_...
  - jeffgreco 4y ago
    Where's the misinformation? Isn't he describing the second option you quoted?
    - 2h 4y ago
      did you read what I quoted? It says the binary must be distributed with source code, or with an offer to distribute the source code. Lego did none of that.
      - elygre 4y ago
        I was responding to the comment on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35182511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35182511, which says that "GPL doesn't say you must provide source code once you get caught, it says you must publish it the moment you release a derivative work." And, no. You don't have to publish the source code. You have to offer to distribute it. Which is different. (I am not a lawyer). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35183786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35183786 contains a quick discussion about what is and what is not there. I don't have the product, so I cannot tell.

by 2h 4y ago

ozornin 4y ago

> companies should just follow the licenses from the beginning Sure, should. Some don't. So, developers and activists also need to be policing it.

elygre 4y ago

I don’t think the gpl requires you to publish source code. It requires you to make it available on request. Thus it’s not a question about getting caught, but whether someone made a request.

klabb3 4y ago
There’s a requirement to include the license with the product, isn’t there? I’d hope removing a license is actually a pretty serious offense.
- deleted 4y ago
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2h 4y ago
maybe you should find out, before spreading misinformation: > require that programs distributed as pre-compiled binaries be accompanied by a copy of the source code, a written offer to distribute the source code via the same mechanism as the pre-compiled binary, or the written offer to obtain the source code that the user got when they received the pre-compiled binary under the GPL. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions https://wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_...
- jeffgreco 4y ago
  Where's the misinformation? Isn't he describing the second option you quoted?
  - 2h 4y ago
    did you read what I quoted? It says the binary must be distributed with source code, or with an offer to distribute the source code. Lego did none of that.
    - elygre 4y ago
      I was responding to the comment on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35182511 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35182511, which says that "GPL doesn't say you must provide source code once you get caught, it says you must publish it the moment you release a derivative work." And, no. You don't have to publish the source code. You have to offer to distribute it. Which is different. (I am not a lawyer). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35183786 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35183786 contains a quick discussion about what is and what is not there. I don't have the product, so I cannot tell.