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It's not pretend there is nothing you can do unless you are participating in mass action not individual action. Focusing on personal consumption is an illness

It's not pretend there is nothing you can do unless you are participating in mass action not individual action. Focusing on personal consumption is an illness of upper middle class Americans that keeps you from focusing your efforts on activity that might lead the actual change.

paulcole 4y ago
Again no. The idea that you as an individual can’t make choices that are better for the world is self-delusion. You choose not to make those choices because it is easier to blame someone else. And again, there’s nothing wrong with this. But at least be honest about it. You can take individual action and put effort into activity that might lead to actual change. But I’m guessing most people opt for the make no change, blame someone else, and put no effort into activity that might lead to actual change option. And again, nothing wrong with this! It’s our planet to fuck up.
- mchanson 4y ago
  We are talking about plastic in the environment. Your personal choices will make no difference in this problem. There are other problems where personal action on an individual level can make positive change, but this isn't one of them.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    > Your personal choices will make no difference in this problem. Of course they do! You are reducing your contribution to future plastic in the environment. We can argue over the extent of the difference this choice makes but to say it makes no difference is absurd.
    - yesenadam 4y ago
      OK, well, why say "there’s nothing wrong with this" as you do above— > The idea that you as an individual can’t make choices that are better for the world is self-delusion. You choose not to make those choices because it is easier to blame someone else. And again, there’s nothing wrong with this. —when your whole point is that there's something wrong with it?! And it's mixed with unnecessarily confrontational language—"absurd", "self-delusion".
      - paulcole 4y ago
        Because there is nothing wrong with it. It’s our planet to wreck!

paulcole 4y ago

Again no. The idea that you as an individual can’t make choices that are better for the world is self-delusion. You choose not to make those choices because it is easier to blame someone else. And again, there’s nothing wrong with this. But at least be honest about it. You can take individual action and put effort into activity that might lead to actual change. But I’m guessing most people opt for the make no change, blame someone else, and put no effort into activity that might lead to actual change option. And again, nothing wrong with this! It’s our planet to fuck up.

mchanson 4y ago
We are talking about plastic in the environment. Your personal choices will make no difference in this problem. There are other problems where personal action on an individual level can make positive change, but this isn't one of them.
- paulcole 4y ago
  > Your personal choices will make no difference in this problem. Of course they do! You are reducing your contribution to future plastic in the environment. We can argue over the extent of the difference this choice makes but to say it makes no difference is absurd.
  - yesenadam 4y ago
    OK, well, why say "there’s nothing wrong with this" as you do above— > The idea that you as an individual can’t make choices that are better for the world is self-delusion. You choose not to make those choices because it is easier to blame someone else. And again, there’s nothing wrong with this. —when your whole point is that there's something wrong with it?! And it's mixed with unnecessarily confrontational language—"absurd", "self-delusion".
    - paulcole 4y ago
      Because there is nothing wrong with it. It’s our planet to wreck!