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This is just a reminder to take a backup of your cloud photos and store it locally (or other cloud provider). For example, with Google Takeout you can get a ZIP

by stepri 4y ago

This is just a reminder to take a backup of your cloud photos and store it locally (or other cloud provider). For example, with Google Takeout you can get a ZIP file with all your photos and videos from Google Photos.

ALLTaken 4y ago
For iCloud, would just copying images from iCloud to the backup media be enough?
- bayindirh 4y ago
  Local photo library is a folder, disguised as a package. One of the folders store all the originals on the device. Copy that folder, and you're good to go. You can also get the full folder hierarchy, if you wish.
  - yardstick 4y ago
    If you enable iCloud for the photo library, and even if you select store originals, I have found that Photos still offloads some pictures. It’s just not guaranteed. I really wish Apple had a complete export button, similar to google takeout. Or at least a good CLI tool to get the original images one by one. Fwiw my library is ~200k files and close to a TB.
    - lostlogin 4y ago
      Agreed. I rsync images out of Apple’s weird file structure that’s in the bundle. It’s horrible, but with ‘download originals’ enabled it works well. It’s particularly frustrating with large libraries as they occupy nearly all an SSD. For this reason I do it all on a VM that’s on a Synology.
- mleo 4y ago
  You can use privacy.apple.com to request a copy of all photos and other digital data. It will send emails with download links when bundled.
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    While that service is good, that’s a difficult method for saving a large library on a regular basis.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  https://github.com/icloud-photos-downloader/icloud_photos_downloader https://github.com/icloud-photos-downloader/icloud_photos_do...
  - mr337 4y ago
    And packaged as a docker container to run daily, weekly, or monthly backups. https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd
  - mmh0000 4y ago
    I have no idea why you're getting downvoted. The icloud-photos-downloader is an amazing tool. I run it from a monthly cronjob to have a local backup in case icloud iexplodes.
  - WirelessGigabit 4y ago
    Sadly this doesn't work with end-to-end encryption enabled.
worldsavior 4y ago
That makes no sense. If you have backups locally, why store them on the cloud?
- homero 4y ago
  House fire? Theft?
  - worldsavior 4y ago
    You can also say: cloud servers are on fire and the house is on fire, have another backup someplace else. It's all probability. The probability that your house will be on fire these days is low, and the probability that your computer/hard drive will get on fire is also low (since you will probably take it out, no one will leave his phone in a burning house right?). We can say that the probability above is that low that it doesn't really affect anything. There are many other different parameters to add, and I use a bit of math here which doesn't always reflect on life, but you get the point.
- deleted 4y ago
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- ssalenik 4y ago
  two is one and one is none
- riskable 4y ago
  In case your house burns down. It happens.
- Toutouxc 4y ago
  One backup is no backup. Two backups is one backup.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    However great you think your backup strategy is, it probably doesn't seem so great when you lose your primary.
Trasmatta 4y ago
I hate how Google Photos seems to no longer have the ability to auto sync to your computer. When it was integrated more with Google Drive you could do that, and then my daily automated backups would pull them. That way I had them in Google Photos, my computer's hard drive, and my off-site backups, all automatically. Now my only option is to periodically do a manual Takeout, as far as I can tell.
- lom 4y ago
  You can get automatic takeouts from Google, might have to find a way to automatically download them when they send it to your email
coldpie 4y ago
So... what do y'all actually do with your hundreds of thousands of photos? I just bulk delete everything older than a month when my phone is low on storage. Do you ever actually go back and look at any of the hundreds of thousands of pictures? When do you do this?
- skipnup 4y ago
  All the time actually. I have monthly folders, automatically backed up by my phone to the NAS. Each month my wife and I sift through the photos and delete all duplicates and boring stuff and then we have around 150 photos per month that we sometime just have on as a slideshow. Yearly, we create printed photo albums that we look at regularly and show to our kids. But all this only works after lots and lots of hours of manual work filtering the photos. Still, over the last 15 years or so for two people we have way more than 100k photos stored on the NAS.
- BLKNSLVR 4y ago
  When you have kids, and when they turn into teenagers, you'll want to remember them as they were before. ;) My daughter loves looking back at home videos of the family. So embarrassing, so beautiful, so many little things about their personalities that would otherwise be forgotten. Just a few hours ago I was checking backups and stumbled into a nest of folders that had some more home videos in it, and of my son just being his quirky little kid self. Gives my life meaning, shows me I did stuff ok.
  - coldpie 4y ago
    If I ever have kids, I'll have to have a stern talking-to with my surgeon about a botched vasectomy ;)
- hbn 4y ago
  I have photos backed up on Google Photos for the last 10 years. I go back to find old photos all the time. There's different reasons, sometimes I'm just feeling nostalgic for a time in my life and want to see photos for them. Sometimes I want to find a specific photo of someone to send to them. Here's a practical example of it coming in handy: back in university I moved to another city for an internship and took some framed photos I had on my walls. When I moved back into my parents' house when the internship was over, the nails were still in the walls and I wanted to hang them the same way I had before but couldn't remember which photo went where. So I went into my Google Photos, typed "photo frames," and was able to find pictures in my library with the framed photos in the background, and piece together which photo went where to get everything back to where it had been before.
ashwagary 4y ago
A buddy self-hosts his collection using a free tool called PhotoPrism. It has some auto classification abilities. https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism

by stepri 4y ago

ALLTaken 4y ago

For iCloud, would just copying images from iCloud to the backup media be enough?

bayindirh 4y ago
Local photo library is a folder, disguised as a package. One of the folders store all the originals on the device. Copy that folder, and you're good to go. You can also get the full folder hierarchy, if you wish.
- yardstick 4y ago
  If you enable iCloud for the photo library, and even if you select store originals, I have found that Photos still offloads some pictures. It’s just not guaranteed. I really wish Apple had a complete export button, similar to google takeout. Or at least a good CLI tool to get the original images one by one. Fwiw my library is ~200k files and close to a TB.
  - lostlogin 4y ago
    Agreed. I rsync images out of Apple’s weird file structure that’s in the bundle. It’s horrible, but with ‘download originals’ enabled it works well. It’s particularly frustrating with large libraries as they occupy nearly all an SSD. For this reason I do it all on a VM that’s on a Synology.
mleo 4y ago
You can use privacy.apple.com to request a copy of all photos and other digital data. It will send emails with download links when bundled.
- lostlogin 4y ago
  While that service is good, that’s a difficult method for saving a large library on a regular basis.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
https://github.com/icloud-photos-downloader/icloud_photos_downloader https://github.com/icloud-photos-downloader/icloud_photos_do...
- mr337 4y ago
  And packaged as a docker container to run daily, weekly, or monthly backups. https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd https://github.com/boredazfcuk/docker-icloudpd
- mmh0000 4y ago
  I have no idea why you're getting downvoted. The icloud-photos-downloader is an amazing tool. I run it from a monthly cronjob to have a local backup in case icloud iexplodes.
- WirelessGigabit 4y ago
  Sadly this doesn't work with end-to-end encryption enabled.

worldsavior 4y ago

That makes no sense. If you have backups locally, why store them on the cloud?

homero 4y ago
House fire? Theft?
- worldsavior 4y ago
  You can also say: cloud servers are on fire and the house is on fire, have another backup someplace else. It's all probability. The probability that your house will be on fire these days is low, and the probability that your computer/hard drive will get on fire is also low (since you will probably take it out, no one will leave his phone in a burning house right?). We can say that the probability above is that low that it doesn't really affect anything. There are many other different parameters to add, and I use a bit of math here which doesn't always reflect on life, but you get the point.
deleted 4y ago
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ssalenik 4y ago
two is one and one is none
riskable 4y ago
In case your house burns down. It happens.
Toutouxc 4y ago
One backup is no backup. Two backups is one backup.
- ghaff 4y ago
  However great you think your backup strategy is, it probably doesn't seem so great when you lose your primary.

Trasmatta 4y ago

I hate how Google Photos seems to no longer have the ability to auto sync to your computer. When it was integrated more with Google Drive you could do that, and then my daily automated backups would pull them. That way I had them in Google Photos, my computer's hard drive, and my off-site backups, all automatically. Now my only option is to periodically do a manual Takeout, as far as I can tell.

lom 4y ago
You can get automatic takeouts from Google, might have to find a way to automatically download them when they send it to your email

coldpie 4y ago

So... what do y'all actually do with your hundreds of thousands of photos? I just bulk delete everything older than a month when my phone is low on storage. Do you ever actually go back and look at any of the hundreds of thousands of pictures? When do you do this?

skipnup 4y ago
All the time actually. I have monthly folders, automatically backed up by my phone to the NAS. Each month my wife and I sift through the photos and delete all duplicates and boring stuff and then we have around 150 photos per month that we sometime just have on as a slideshow. Yearly, we create printed photo albums that we look at regularly and show to our kids. But all this only works after lots and lots of hours of manual work filtering the photos. Still, over the last 15 years or so for two people we have way more than 100k photos stored on the NAS.
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
When you have kids, and when they turn into teenagers, you'll want to remember them as they were before. ;) My daughter loves looking back at home videos of the family. So embarrassing, so beautiful, so many little things about their personalities that would otherwise be forgotten. Just a few hours ago I was checking backups and stumbled into a nest of folders that had some more home videos in it, and of my son just being his quirky little kid self. Gives my life meaning, shows me I did stuff ok.
- coldpie 4y ago
  If I ever have kids, I'll have to have a stern talking-to with my surgeon about a botched vasectomy ;)
hbn 4y ago
I have photos backed up on Google Photos for the last 10 years. I go back to find old photos all the time. There's different reasons, sometimes I'm just feeling nostalgic for a time in my life and want to see photos for them. Sometimes I want to find a specific photo of someone to send to them. Here's a practical example of it coming in handy: back in university I moved to another city for an internship and took some framed photos I had on my walls. When I moved back into my parents' house when the internship was over, the nails were still in the walls and I wanted to hang them the same way I had before but couldn't remember which photo went where. So I went into my Google Photos, typed "photo frames," and was able to find pictures in my library with the framed photos in the background, and piece together which photo went where to get everything back to where it had been before.

ashwagary 4y ago

A buddy self-hosts his collection using a free tool called PhotoPrism. It has some auto classification abilities. https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism https://github.com/photoprism/photoprism