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Those AIs still need the ability to manipulate the physical world at scale, otherwise they can be as intelligent as they want.
by RandomLensman 4y ago
Those AIs still need the ability to manipulate the physical world at scale, otherwise they can be as intelligent as they want.
- flemhans 4y agoCould be inderectly or subtly using e.g. social media to nudge people in the desired direction, like the Russians do
- Teever 4y agoHell, some people wouldn't even need subtle or indirect messaging, they'd volunteer to work for an AI just to fuck with the status quo.
- RandomLensman 4y agoThose things can be shut down or the AI can be shut down.
- TheOtherHobbes 4y agoOnly if humans notice them happening.
- flangola7 4y agoThen why isn't it shut down already? Social manipulation campaigns have been known for years, and AI will be far more effective than anything that has come before. "We'll just turn it off before it causes damage" is a scenario that's been wargamed many times, and it usually does not end in our favor if the AI is sufficiently capable.
- Teever 4y agoCan an AI describe the hardware that it runs on? Can it provide instructions for a human to follow to build that hardware? Or even better can it provide the instructions for a human to follow to build a humanoid robot that can build humanoid robots?
- RandomLensman 4y agoMaybe it can, maybe it cannot - who knows?
- Teever 4y agoI guess we'll soon find out. The minute a human flicks the power switch on a self replicating machine that an AI convinced it to build will be the start of a totally different world.
- RandomLensman 4y agoThe world is full of self-replicating things - it would need special attributes such as an ability to consume everything or being impossible to shut down/destroy to be of novel quality. A clunky, self-replicating thing would certainly be an interesting trinket but maybe not much more.
- TheOtherHobbes 4y agoA clunky self-replicating thing running a corporation on predatory capitalist principles would not be "an interesting trinket." We're talking about automating dictatorship, with humans living inside an AI panopticon which is far more intelligent than we are. And far better at manipulating our intellectual and emotional responses than any human dictator to date. And that's one of the better outcomes. The worst outcome is an AI that decides we're disposable because we're in its way. Note that all of these are possible even if the AI is not sentient or self-aware. A machine intelligence can be an effective goal seeker, even if it's morally as sophisticated as a room thermostat - which has goals but no concept of what temperature feels like, or why humans can only survive in a certain range.
- RandomLensman 4y agoFor an AI to run a corporation, people need to let it. Btw. none of this needs AI, really, people can do this to other people.
- matthewdgreen 4y agoThe first thing that’s going to happen is that people use them to automate logistics organizations like Amazon’s (and airlines, and manufacturing, and a million other services.) Manipulating the world is easy.
- Animats 4y agoThe concern is that AIs will manipulate the physical world by paying humans to do it. That's how an Amazon warehouse works. It's how Uber works.