4 ms·
> I'm pointing out that it making those assumptions is the result of a bias. A biases that was collected from training data that may or may not be statisticall
by recuter 4y ago
> I'm pointing out that it making those assumptions is the result of a bias. A biases that was collected from training data that may or may not be statistically true
Schrödinger's Bias.
- kennywinker 4y agoSorry, was I not clear enough for you? Biases collected from training data that is SOMETIMES statistically true and OTHER TIMES statistically false.
- recuter 4y agoStatistically true bias is quite the notion. I wish to unsubscribe from your newsletter.
- kennywinker 4y agoStatistically true bias: trump is statistically less popular than biden, so for chatgpt to praise him would be in violation of the truth - but it's also obvioulsy a bias. But yeah you're unsubscribed.
- recuter 4y agoChatGPT is not a popularity contest, it should give me poems about Andrew Dice Clay should I for some reason desire one. That word, bias, you keep using it, I don't think it means what you think it means ;)
- kennywinker 4y agoI agree an unbaised ai would not be a popularity contest - but the reality is that chatgpt is a popularity contest: it's just that votes are cast by the writers of the text that get ingested as training data.
- recuter 4y agoAnd the panel of American Idol type judges at OpenAI who override those votes as the self appointed arbitrators of good taste and insist on claiming the tool is neutral rather than neutered.
- kennywinker 4y agoRight. This thing that is inherently biased and cannot be made unbiased because its very basic components are biased, has also been given some rules that further bias it. And yet you don’t seem to understand why i’m far more concerned that we think it’s possible to make an unbiased ai than with the arbitrary rules its been given. Chatgpt will not be king of ai forever, and the next company will give their ai a different set of rules… but it’ll still be biased at its core.
- LawTalkingGuy 4y agoYou aren't using the term bias correctly so most of what you're asking for is directly backwards. Nobody else would call this bias, we'd call it accuracy. You are literally just trying to shape it yourself, in a more damaging way than if it was left to model actual human speech. If you got your way you'd create a "proper thinking" checker. But go for it - the tools are out there. Try it and convince us that an electronic scolding machine is a good thing.
- kennywinker 4y agoYou’re, at this point probably willfully, misunderstanding basically everything i’ve said. I do not want ai (ohh, sorry… llm’s eyeroll) that validates the pc-ness of what you’re writing about. What i’d actually like is for ai to provide a list of sources for every idea that has influenced what it spits out. The traceability of ideas is important and as ai gets more ingrained in the tools we use being able to see where ideas are coming from is the only way i can see to be able to counteract the biases in the system. You ask it about banking systems, and you notice that the sources it’s drawing from are all koch brothers funded garbage, or the communist manifesto, or whatever, and you can see that the text its generating from these prompts isn’t going to be balanced This would help in the dumb poem about trump example, as the rules chatgpt has about talking about trump or biden would have to be there for everyone to see.