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I like it a lot. Do these characters make sense as a Chinese phrase as well? Chū zhì guàn chè ?
by dbtc 4y ago
I like it a lot.
Do these characters make sense as a Chinese phrase as well?
Chū zhì guàn chè ?
- wenyuanyu 4y agoYes, it makes sense, but I have not seen this idiom used in China. In China, a widely used idiom of similar meaning is 坚持初心 (jiān chí chū xīn)
- lifthrasiir 4y agoIt seems that 矢志不渝 [1] is a more close analogue in that this exact four-letter form is always used. The Korean version is substantially different too, it's 初志一貫 (초지일관 Chojiilgwan). [1] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E7%9F%A2%E5%BF%97%E4%B8%8D%E6%B8%9D/696757 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E7%9F%A2%E5%BF%97%E4%B8%8D%E6%...
- wenyuanyu 4y agoAs a Chinese person, I perceive "初志" as having a connotation of "original" or "initial" intentions, whereas "矢志" simply implies determined wishes or promises without emphasizing the "initial" aspect. While I'm not an expert in Japanese, my understanding is based on the Chinese perspective, and the actual meaning in Japanese might differ. It's intriguing to see how these nuances can vary across languages and cultures.
- lifthrasiir 4y agoI personally analyze 初志一貫 as simply being consistent (一貫) from the beginning (初志), not necessarily retaining the original subject (only implied). I believe this is the most frequent Korean interpretation because 初志 초지 is not a common Korean word (its synonym 初心 초심 is common) and 初志一貫 is probably the only phrase you can find this word.
- whoevercares 4y agoWhile making perfect sense, it just feels slightly weird due to the order and IMHO less beautiful to its equivalent. In Chinese it’s 不渝 “unshakable” instead of 贯彻(insist)