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I don't doubt the AKC's numbers, but I think the Economist is missing the -doodle dogs. Maybe because they aren't recognized breeds? I see them constantly: lab
by AlbertCory 4y ago
I don't doubt the AKC's numbers, but I think the Economist is missing the -doodle dogs. Maybe because they aren't recognized breeds?
I see them constantly: labradoodles, goldendoodles, bernadoodles
Edit: I think "they don't shed" is the attraction of the -doodle. Well, my Lab doesn't shed, either, and he's never had a haircut.
- philwelch 4y agoAre there any French bulldoodles?
- RandallBrown 4y agoYup. https://www.petguide.com/breeds/dog/french-boodle/ https://www.petguide.com/breeds/dog/french-boodle/
- coreyisthename 4y agoThey’re lovely, smart, healthy, happy, energetic, fun, and cute.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoLovely maybe. Smart less so. Certainly not healthy. And being "energetic" is a problem when your legs are short and deformed, your spine and vertebrae are deformed and you can hardly get enough air to run for longer distance.
- verall 4y agoWhich doodles does that apply to?
- mgarfias 4y agoCorrect, AKC only Gives data for the breeds they recognize. They’re not going to count any of the “non breeds” like a doodle, or even breeds they don’t recognize that FCI does.
- labster 4y agoMan who invented labradoodle says it's his 'life's regret' > Wally Conron says he created a ‘Frankenstein’s monster’ as unethical breeders now make hybrids with serious health problems https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/26/labradoodle-inventor-lifes-regret-frankenstein-monster https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/26/labrado...
- bayesian_horse 4y agoThe bigger problem in the US is that dog owners are in general less educated about the relevant topics than in some other countries (like Germany). They will usually prefer to go to a breeder rather than adopt, and in terms of breeders they prefer cheap prices over other qualities of the breeder. I recently learned "Amish Puppy Mills" are a thing... In Germany, people will usually go to a shelter first. But there are usually no dogs in a shelter suitable for the average dog owner (no extreme medical or behavioral problems, not too big, and "fighting" breeds can be a regulatory hassle). It's gotten so bad the shelters are screening applicants like job seekers. It's gotten so bad we import tens of thousands of "street dogs" from the mediterranean and Eastern Europe. Yes, also with plenty scammers. It got worse during the Covid years. And now all the "unsuitable" dogs get dumped in a shelter again.
- vincnetas 4y agoI am a bit triggered by calling them a "amish" puppy mills. why not just call them puppy mills. of course they are run by amish, but they are also run by humans. So even if 90% of them are run by a amish, that does not mean that 90% of Amish people are running puppy mills. Does using ethnicity in this case adds to the definition?
- theshrike79 4y agoI'd call it a probability definition. If you're buying a dog from Amish people are you more or less likely to get a puppy-mill dog compared to buying from non-Amish?
- bayesian_horse 4y ago
- stephenboyd 4y agoIt looks like the recent popularity of hybrid poodle mixes explains the decline of purebred retrievers.
- AlbertCory 4y agoPossibly. Judging only by my own (heavily Asian) neighborhood, little white dogs gave way to (Goldens / Labs and -doodles). I can't even remember all the yellow Labs' names anymore.
- cafard 4y agoThe hypoallergenic quality is a big attraction. My neighbors have allergies, and might not be able to tolerate a different breed.