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People have always hated the tech industry. They've been throwing tomatoes at google buses in the mission for 10+ years.

andyferris 4y ago
I thought that was a local (NIMBY/housing) issue? Do the shifting opinions mentioned in the article apply outside of silicon valley, and outside the US?
- rch 4y ago
  It's a developer 'wants to provide real estate cash flow' issue. Same people who provide early startup funding in other markets looking to drive relo and office rents.
umeshunni 4y ago
I think there's a difference between the average level headed person and a foaming at the mouth left wing San Francisco resident.
mitthrowaway2 4y ago
10+ years is a long way from "always".
- Zetobal 4y ago
  If people hate you for half your life it's close to being always.
  - Torifyme12 4y ago
    I mean, it's not like the last 10 years (2013+) have been a string of unwavering wins for the tech industry as a whole. Facebook alone will damn us all.
  - mitthrowaway2 4y ago
    I'm sure Fairchild Semiconductor had its detractors, but I wouldn't say anyone hated them except William Shockley. The article lists some good causes, and they are fairly recent (Juicero was where I started to see real mockery of Silicon Valley startups). There are others that the author does not list, perhaps out of discretion: * Tech profits concentrated in one geographic region have contributed to a high cost of living that makes life very hard for non-tech workers in the area, fostering resentment * A lot of tech companies have ad- and engagement- based business models that are... not necessary healthy for their users, or for society * Predatory data harvesting has led to a justified mistrust of new products and services * New technology has always "disrupted" careers (farewell, ETAOIN SHRDLU), but advances in AI are threatening to do so in a way that most people thought would not be possible in their working lifetime, with these changes happening in the timescale between the time where you enroll in a particular major and graduate to an obsolete profession.
vox_pendejo 4y ago
That was fringe, and it was limited to San Francisco, which has been dysfunctional and unaffordable since at least the 1990s. The broad-based and justified hatred for tech is new. Startups did a really job of branding themselves as “not corporate.” It’s like Trump—claim to be populist and revolutionary but secretly replicate all the self-serving rubbish practices of the establishment you say you are fighting.
- blobbers 4y ago
  "justified hatred", well there's a concept.

andyferris 4y ago

I thought that was a local (NIMBY/housing) issue? Do the shifting opinions mentioned in the article apply outside of silicon valley, and outside the US?

rch 4y ago
It's a developer 'wants to provide real estate cash flow' issue. Same people who provide early startup funding in other markets looking to drive relo and office rents.

umeshunni 4y ago

I think there's a difference between the average level headed person and a foaming at the mouth left wing San Francisco resident.

mitthrowaway2 4y ago

10+ years is a long way from "always".

Zetobal 4y ago
If people hate you for half your life it's close to being always.
- Torifyme12 4y ago
  I mean, it's not like the last 10 years (2013+) have been a string of unwavering wins for the tech industry as a whole. Facebook alone will damn us all.
- mitthrowaway2 4y ago
  I'm sure Fairchild Semiconductor had its detractors, but I wouldn't say anyone hated them except William Shockley. The article lists some good causes, and they are fairly recent (Juicero was where I started to see real mockery of Silicon Valley startups). There are others that the author does not list, perhaps out of discretion: * Tech profits concentrated in one geographic region have contributed to a high cost of living that makes life very hard for non-tech workers in the area, fostering resentment * A lot of tech companies have ad- and engagement- based business models that are... not necessary healthy for their users, or for society * Predatory data harvesting has led to a justified mistrust of new products and services * New technology has always "disrupted" careers (farewell, ETAOIN SHRDLU), but advances in AI are threatening to do so in a way that most people thought would not be possible in their working lifetime, with these changes happening in the timescale between the time where you enroll in a particular major and graduate to an obsolete profession.

vox_pendejo 4y ago

That was fringe, and it was limited to San Francisco, which has been dysfunctional and unaffordable since at least the 1990s. The broad-based and justified hatred for tech is new. Startups did a really job of branding themselves as “not corporate.” It’s like Trump—claim to be populist and revolutionary but secretly replicate all the self-serving rubbish practices of the establishment you say you are fighting.

blobbers 4y ago
"justified hatred", well there's a concept.