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The ID.2all concept is an electric VW $25.000
- killingtime74 4y agothats not a good price. Where is the innovation? Price, range, features, looks?
- syntaxing 4y agoUhhh…25K for 280 miles? Even the Bolt nor leaf can beat that. How is that not a good price?
- freshpots 4y agoThey, seemingly, didn't read the article.
- Kirby64 4y agoI have doubts their actual car will be released anywhere near that price/range ratio. If you read the article carefully they state 'starting at' 22k EU, and 'aiming for' 280 mi range (not specified if this is EPA or WLTP... which would basically be the difference between a reasonable 280mi, and something closer to ~190).
- Rebelgecko 4y agoWhat electric cars with comparable range have a better price?
- tirant 4y agoThe only competitor I can think of is the new electric Mini, with a range of more than 280miles, but it's a two door hatchback and the cost is expected to be north of $30,000
- pram 4y agoSpoilers: it's a Golf.
- Kon-Peki 4y agoIf it’s a 5-seater, it needs to be 1.9 to 2 meters wide, not 1.8. I know, I know, automakers would much rather sell full-size pickups and three-row crossovers than make a 5-seater that actually seats 5 in reasonable comfort.
- fomine3 4y agoIt's just 4+1 (emergency) seater. I wish every car manufacturer keep making < 1.8m cars. Nowadays every cars become wider.
- Kon-Peki 4y agoA Porsche 911 has 4 seatbelts, but nobody calls it a 4-seater. When manufacturers call their cars 5-seaters but they're not really meant to regularly carry 5 people, buyers lose trust in that designation. And then buy bigger vehicles to compensate. This is great for the automaker, but not for you, your safety, or the planet.
- fomine3 4y agoAnyway, can't you just take your family for a test drive to confirm the seating arrangements? I only want a 4-seater, I don't need a full 5-seater. Manufacturers can add emergency seat to 4-seater at minimal cost. What's the problem for me and the planet? I'm saying that I want a small (efficient) cars.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoMost people in the market looking for >4 seaters are looking for vehicles to carry kids. This is a 5 seater if at least one is a kid.
- idontwantthis 4y agoI hope it’s released in the US, not just Europe.
- ranguna 4y agoProbably Europe only: https://youtu.be/3TaNKoYLGsQ https://youtu.be/3TaNKoYLGsQ @11 minutes mark. Suposadly it's "too small".
- 0cf8612b2e1e 4y agoThis American is sick of how big everything has become. Give me a smaller phone and a smaller car.
- whatever1 4y ago2025. Thanks we will let you know.
- ranguna 4y agoMy god, if Elon thinks he's the only one that can shake the industry, he needs to prepare for this one. 22k pounds for 450km of range, impressive exterior and even better interior with an amazingly looking center console screen and hud. If this concept turns into reality, it's gonna be almost a better (or actually better, depending on your preferences) car than the model y standard range for half the price!
- danw1979 4y agoThe Y has a gigantic boot, 970l - over double this. Somewhat apples and oranges comparison. Not throwing shade on the ID.2 though ! it looks great (apart from the weird shaped steering wheel and massive touchscreen). And typical hatchback cargo space for this price and range is great.
- lm28469 4y agoThe price of the Y is also "over double this"
- recuter 4y ago> If this concept turns into reality, it's gonna be almost a better (or actually better, depending on your preferences) car than the model y standard range for half the price! This is magical thinking. Kudos to Volkswagen PR folks what can I say, mission accomplished. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Nils https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Nils (2011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk7#e-Golf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Golf_Mk7#e-Golf (2013) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_ID._Buzz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_ID._Buzz (2017) Are you new to car concept PR shenanigans? The limiting factor is batteries and being able to produce these things at scale. What Tesla is doing with its gigafactories and approach to batteries is something all the legacy car companies need to be doing and they need to get on that yesterday. 2024/5 is around the time Tesla will have a new range of cars and price drops and I can say this not because of blind optimism in Elon but because the physics and economics are starting to line up to enable that. For an in-depth analysis take a look at Munro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fe548XvavY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fe548XvavY tl;dr - the right way to build electric cars: In-house electronics. In-house batteries. In-house motors. 48v wiring. Gigacastings. Gigafactories. Vertical integration. VW, Toyota, 'etc all have engineers screaming for over a decade about all these things but other than PR fluff they are just not allowed to tackle the problem. Weird, but here we are.
- danw1979 4y agoI’ll recycle my comment from the DeLorean a few days ago… They lost me at the weird shaped steering wheel and massive touchscreen.
- bwindels 4y agoNice, makes my VW E-up look a bit outdated, but I bet it won't be as light (1160kg) or as efficient (~12Kwh/100km). Expected in 2025, interesting they announce the price so far ahead, especially given the current inflation level.
- gaze 4y agoI so desperately want an electric golf R or GTI.
- qudat 4y agoI have the ID.4 and besides the software it is a fantastic car. We also have a Golf R and would love to have the same car but all electric. I would be all over the ID.2 if it reaches the US.