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The American Hawk looks with disbelief at someone who wants less war, not more.
by favaq 4y ago
The American Hawk looks with disbelief at someone who wants less war, not more.
- simplotek 4y agoYou don't have less war by stopping victims from defending themselves. You just get to improve the odds that the attacker is successful.
- listenallyall 4y agoYou have "less war" when one side dominates and the other surrenders quickly. Two evenly-matched sides can continue fighting for decades.
- yadaeno 4y agoThat worked with Poland in 1939 until Hitler decided to continue and attack the rest of Europe.
- listenallyall 4y agoLook, I'm not trying to discuss strategy or glory or good vs evil, just the concept of "less war." WWII was 6 years. US involvement in more recent conflicts like Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq was a lot longer. Meanwhile various civil and border wars have gone on beyond a decade.
- Swenrekcah 4y agoI was merely surprised by this, but the position that one has to want war in order to want to support Ukrainian defence in this unprovoked war of aggression is at best naive. Also I’m not American, why would you think so?
- ummonk 4y agoDamming water to Crimea and shelling civilians in Donbas for 8 years is hardly “unprovoked”. It might not be sufficient justification for such a deadly and destructive invasion but it’s certainly provocation.
- older 4y agoRussian propaganda bingo in only one comment. Impressive.
- distances 4y agoSo Ukraine should now provide water to lands occupied by their enemy? The Russian narrative gets more ridiculous every day!
- xkcd1963 4y agoHe got the part with Donbas right though. The Ukrainian army started shelling their own citizens.
- ummonk 4y agoCutting off water to your own citizens because they’re under foreign occupation is certainly a provocative move that will put the legitimacy of your government into question, yes.
- rfrey 4y agoAnd many who are not Americans look with disbelief at those who would deny the right of self defence to a nation, embolden and support an imperialist tyrant, virtually guarantee more wars in the near, and justify it with a cynical call to "peace".