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> But even worse, we're talking about many of people who are still awaiting trial-- presumably they are innocent at a greater rate than those convicted. "Await

by Syonyk 4y ago

> But even worse, we're talking about many of people who are still awaiting trial-- presumably they are innocent at a greater rate than those convicted. "Awaiting trial" or even "Awaiting details of the charges to be hammered out" seem to be depressingly time unrestricted. I sat in on some of the hearings, and there was a lot of "Well, we're not ready, can we push this out for 2 weeks?" sort of scheduling going on. The person I'm familiar with this from basically spent 2 months in jail (not prison, apparently the difference is that prison is nicer, jail is really just a holding tank) on false charges that were then dropped as they were "literally impossible." He wasn't in the state when the claimed events happened.

kingkawn 4y ago
I participated in the exoneration effort for a kid who was arrested at 15 and didn’t even go to trial at all until age 19. At the trial the judge denied him the right to call expert witnesses that led to a successful appeal, and then finally after 8 years of his prime youth lost to incarceration the charges were all dropped.
aqme28 4y ago
Kalief Browder. Was awaiting trial at Rikers for years before charges were eventually dropped. In total he spent over two years in solitary confinement while never being tried for the petty robbery he was falsely accused of. Killed himself when he got out.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago
  >Killed himself when he got out. Hopefully somewhere and in a manner inconvenient for the responsible parties...
  - aqme28 4y ago
    > People tell me because I have this case against the city I'm all right. But I'm not all right. I'm messed up. I know that I might see some money from this case, but that's not going to help me mentally. I'm mentally scarred right now. That's how I feel. [There] are certain things that changed about me[,] and they might not [change] back. ... Before I went to jail, I didn't know about a lot of stuff, and, now that I'm aware, I'm paranoid. I feel like I was robbed of my happiness.
ashwagary 4y ago
Some countries like El Salvador require court dates and evidence of a crime to be submitted within a fixed period of time (2-4 weeks?), or a suspect has to be released. Perhaps this kind of system will help US courts with their priorities.
onetokeoverthe 4y ago
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by Syonyk 4y ago

kingkawn 4y ago

I participated in the exoneration effort for a kid who was arrested at 15 and didn’t even go to trial at all until age 19. At the trial the judge denied him the right to call expert witnesses that led to a successful appeal, and then finally after 8 years of his prime youth lost to incarceration the charges were all dropped.

aqme28 4y ago

Kalief Browder. Was awaiting trial at Rikers for years before charges were eventually dropped. In total he spent over two years in solitary confinement while never being tried for the petty robbery he was falsely accused of. Killed himself when he got out.

dsfyu404ed 4y ago
>Killed himself when he got out. Hopefully somewhere and in a manner inconvenient for the responsible parties...
- aqme28 4y ago
  > People tell me because I have this case against the city I'm all right. But I'm not all right. I'm messed up. I know that I might see some money from this case, but that's not going to help me mentally. I'm mentally scarred right now. That's how I feel. [There] are certain things that changed about me[,] and they might not [change] back. ... Before I went to jail, I didn't know about a lot of stuff, and, now that I'm aware, I'm paranoid. I feel like I was robbed of my happiness.

ashwagary 4y ago

Some countries like El Salvador require court dates and evidence of a crime to be submitted within a fixed period of time (2-4 weeks?), or a suspect has to be released. Perhaps this kind of system will help US courts with their priorities.

onetokeoverthe 4y ago

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