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Aryan Nation members once started a race war in the PA penal system by sending orders written in pee on otherwise innocuous mail when exposed to heat, the lett

by newaccount2023 4y ago

Aryan Nation members once started a race war in the PA penal system by sending orders written in pee on otherwise innocuous mail when exposed to heat, the letter in question revealed an order to go to war with a black prison gang I agree with the EFF case, but this prohibition isn't just a random infringement

connicpu 4y ago
That seems rather straightforward to prevent without infringing on the right to receive mail itself. Letters are already inspected, if the prison is worried about hidden messages in the paper substrate, they can give the prisoner a monochrome photocopy with any extra noise scrubbed out.
moate 4y ago
I mean you can always find justifications for abuses of power/removal of rights. Just look at points to the entirety of human history across all civilizations ever. What's your point? That truly bad people can find fig leaves to provide people who agree with their bad beliefs but want to continue the appearance of civil society so they can go to the rest of the community and advocate for the bad thing?
simonw 4y ago
Is that definitely true? It sounds suspicious to me.
- briandear 4y ago
  https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jun-27-me-code27-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jun-27-me-code2...
rtkwe 4y ago
Any communication channel could carry that same message encoded any number of ways that don't require sending piss soaked letters. Trying to stop every possible bit of crime even in prisons is impossible without unacceptable draconian conditions.
- eesmith 4y ago
  Here's an example. Take the word "Attack". In Morse it's: .- - - .- -.-. -.- Now consider the phrase: Isn't the Japanese tea tradition pure artistry? Remove all but the "i"s and "t"s: it t t titi iti Replace all but the tittle of the i and the crossbar of the t, giving: .- - - -.-. -.- Poof, side-channel communications in a way which gets through this filter. Another tricky technique acronyms characters, kazaam!
acumenical 4y ago
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connicpu 4y ago

That seems rather straightforward to prevent without infringing on the right to receive mail itself. Letters are already inspected, if the prison is worried about hidden messages in the paper substrate, they can give the prisoner a monochrome photocopy with any extra noise scrubbed out.

moate 4y ago

I mean you can always find justifications for abuses of power/removal of rights. Just look at points to the entirety of human history across all civilizations ever. What's your point? That truly bad people can find fig leaves to provide people who agree with their bad beliefs but want to continue the appearance of civil society so they can go to the rest of the community and advocate for the bad thing?

simonw 4y ago

Is that definitely true? It sounds suspicious to me.

briandear 4y ago
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jun-27-me-code27-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jun-27-me-code2...

rtkwe 4y ago

Any communication channel could carry that same message encoded any number of ways that don't require sending piss soaked letters. Trying to stop every possible bit of crime even in prisons is impossible without unacceptable draconian conditions.

eesmith 4y ago
Here's an example. Take the word "Attack". In Morse it's: .- - - .- -.-. -.- Now consider the phrase: Isn't the Japanese tea tradition pure artistry? Remove all but the "i"s and "t"s: it t t titi iti Replace all but the tittle of the i and the crossbar of the t, giving: .- - - -.-. -.- Poof, side-channel communications in a way which gets through this filter. Another tricky technique acronyms characters, kazaam!

acumenical 4y ago

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