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competition is what got us the huge corps..? maybe look for opportunities for cooperation instead.

by LesZedCB 4y ago

satvikpendem 4y ago
Open source competes through cooperation.
- LesZedCB 4y ago
  could that not simply be stated "open source cooperates" i find it a little dated that we cognitively frame everything through the myopic lens of competition. and it's a perfect example where a systemic restructuring can fundamentally rebalance control.
  - satvikpendem 4y ago
    Why is it myopic? OSS products and services absolutely do compete against other commercial services, but both improve in the process. It is the same as how biological evolution works. Competition is a good thing.
    - LesZedCB 4y ago
      you are assuming competition as the dominant mode a-priori. i'm suggesting it's not the case. and the congnitive re-framing of these interactions can have a net-positive effect on social relations.
      - satvikpendem 4y ago
        I'm really not sure what you're saying. All I'm saying is that OSS also has to compete against commercial software.
        LesZedCB 4y ago
        open source doesn't have to compete.
        satvikpendem 4y ago
        Of course not, sure. But it depends on what you're targeting. If you want to dump code into a git repo, slap MIT on the license and never touch it again, you can, I've done so many times. But if you want people to use it, or if you want to earn money from it (Docker, GitLab, Plausible etc) then you will have to compete.
wsgeorge 4y ago
> competition is what got us the huge corps..? Yes, and consolidation also. Competition also gave us their disruptors. > maybe look for opportunities for cooperation instead I hear you, and I don't disagree with your line of thinking, but cooperation to compete is a thing, no? My point being, an adversarial strategy prevents power from coalescing into the hands of one group, because it actively seeks to disrupt that process. The more diverse competition there is, the more pressure there will be against huge corps.

competition is what got us the huge corps..? maybe look for opportunities for cooperation instead.

satvikpendem 4y ago

Open source competes through cooperation.

LesZedCB 4y ago
could that not simply be stated "open source cooperates" i find it a little dated that we cognitively frame everything through the myopic lens of competition. and it's a perfect example where a systemic restructuring can fundamentally rebalance control.
- satvikpendem 4y ago
  Why is it myopic? OSS products and services absolutely do compete against other commercial services, but both improve in the process. It is the same as how biological evolution works. Competition is a good thing.
  - LesZedCB 4y ago
    you are assuming competition as the dominant mode a-priori. i'm suggesting it's not the case. and the congnitive re-framing of these interactions can have a net-positive effect on social relations.
    - satvikpendem 4y ago
      I'm really not sure what you're saying. All I'm saying is that OSS also has to compete against commercial software.
      - LesZedCB 4y ago
        open source doesn't have to compete.
        satvikpendem 4y ago
        Of course not, sure. But it depends on what you're targeting. If you want to dump code into a git repo, slap MIT on the license and never touch it again, you can, I've done so many times. But if you want people to use it, or if you want to earn money from it (Docker, GitLab, Plausible etc) then you will have to compete.

wsgeorge 4y ago

> competition is what got us the huge corps..? Yes, and consolidation also. Competition also gave us their disruptors. > maybe look for opportunities for cooperation instead I hear you, and I don't disagree with your line of thinking, but cooperation to compete is a thing, no? My point being, an adversarial strategy prevents power from coalescing into the hands of one group, because it actively seeks to disrupt that process. The more diverse competition there is, the more pressure there will be against huge corps.