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Are we still pretending that Figma and Google Docs are good examples of applications? I want the native application features that my OS provides, not the half-b

Are we still pretending that Figma and Google Docs are good examples of applications? I want the native application features that my OS provides, not the half-baked, lowest-common-denominator kludges found in web/Electron apps.

Shish2k 4y ago
If you can give me some native APIs which solve distribution and sandboxing, across the three major desktop OSes and two major mobile OSes, as easily as the web, then I would be more than happy to go back to native dev :D
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  "Waaah waah I get paid six figures to npm install and don't want to actually do any work but still want to be called an engineer" Seriously it's pathetic. Stop making my computing environment worse just because you are too lazy to learn some desktop APIs
  - afavour 4y ago
    Come on, this is an absurd response. I'm sure most of us here would love to while away untold hours learning desktop APIs for Windows and Mac, then picking up mobile APIs for iOS and Android. But in the real world we have jobs that have deadlines that do not facilitate rewriting and redistributing at least four different versions of a product. When it comes to delivering a write once deploy anywhere solution the web has no peer. I'm not particularly happy about that but it's the way the world works. Calling people who work on the web "lazy" is a ridiculous response. Maybe you should get to work on the one size fits all native framework that will rival the web?
- robertoandred 4y ago
  I mean, Mac/iOS App Store apps are already sandboxed and easily distributable. Windows, Android, and Linux all have stores/package managers and I assume/hope some level of sandboxing.
  - Shish2k 4y ago
    Building 5 apps using totally separate APIs for 5 different kinds of sandboxes, and then jumping through the arcane and hostile hoops of 5 different app stores (or 50, if you want to support all the linux distros), does not exactly count as “solved across platforms as easily as the web”

Shish2k 4y ago

If you can give me some native APIs which solve distribution and sandboxing, across the three major desktop OSes and two major mobile OSes, as easily as the web, then I would be more than happy to go back to native dev :D

mrguyorama 4y ago
"Waaah waah I get paid six figures to npm install and don't want to actually do any work but still want to be called an engineer" Seriously it's pathetic. Stop making my computing environment worse just because you are too lazy to learn some desktop APIs
- afavour 4y ago
  Come on, this is an absurd response. I'm sure most of us here would love to while away untold hours learning desktop APIs for Windows and Mac, then picking up mobile APIs for iOS and Android. But in the real world we have jobs that have deadlines that do not facilitate rewriting and redistributing at least four different versions of a product. When it comes to delivering a write once deploy anywhere solution the web has no peer. I'm not particularly happy about that but it's the way the world works. Calling people who work on the web "lazy" is a ridiculous response. Maybe you should get to work on the one size fits all native framework that will rival the web?
robertoandred 4y ago
I mean, Mac/iOS App Store apps are already sandboxed and easily distributable. Windows, Android, and Linux all have stores/package managers and I assume/hope some level of sandboxing.
- Shish2k 4y ago
  Building 5 apps using totally separate APIs for 5 different kinds of sandboxes, and then jumping through the arcane and hostile hoops of 5 different app stores (or 50, if you want to support all the linux distros), does not exactly count as “solved across platforms as easily as the web”