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ASK HN: Why should a person that weight about 80kg on average drag along with them a 4000 kg weight just to get around? That is easily 50 times their own weigh

ASK HN: Why should a person that weight about 80kg on average drag along with them a 4000 kg weight just to get around? That is easily 50 times their own weight. And how does a civilization which claims to be concerned about damage to the environment caused by carbon dioxide, and toxic mining entertain such depraved behaviour if they truly believe that the world is coming to an end on account of environmental damage? Then the same person moans that fuel costs are too high. Am I missing something here?

hn_user82179 4y ago
I would say (imo) most of the target market of this Hummer EV are not the people who are primarily concerned about environmental damage. One could argue that this encourages people who are driving ICE-equivalent cars to make the jump to EV. I'm sure there are numbers on which is "less bad", I just have no idea what they are or what tradeoffs are being considered. I live in an area with a lot of smog, where the highest contributor to the local pollution is emission from ICE vehicles and there's a culture of rolling coal. I absolutely hate the people who make the modifications to their cars to pollute more but if this vehicle would convince them to switch to an EV, I think I'm for it! It's more on the theme of harm-reduction for me personally. I actually am less concerned about the environmental damage that this EV would cause than I am about the precedent ("now that you're not limited by gas prices, you can get a giant truck!!") and the inevitable rise in pedestrian and bike deaths (and probably car deaths as well, as how many sedans are going to fare well against a car accident with this thing?).
- vfclists 4y ago
  Do you have an idea of how much carbon dioxide is expended in the production of the vehicle and its lithium batteries? How much of the energy used in the manufacturing of this vehicle and its batteries comes from "clean" sources? So called SUVs are no good for the environment and cities, EV or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo

hn_user82179 4y ago

I would say (imo) most of the target market of this Hummer EV are not the people who are primarily concerned about environmental damage. One could argue that this encourages people who are driving ICE-equivalent cars to make the jump to EV. I'm sure there are numbers on which is "less bad", I just have no idea what they are or what tradeoffs are being considered. I live in an area with a lot of smog, where the highest contributor to the local pollution is emission from ICE vehicles and there's a culture of rolling coal. I absolutely hate the people who make the modifications to their cars to pollute more but if this vehicle would convince them to switch to an EV, I think I'm for it! It's more on the theme of harm-reduction for me personally. I actually am less concerned about the environmental damage that this EV would cause than I am about the precedent ("now that you're not limited by gas prices, you can get a giant truck!!") and the inevitable rise in pedestrian and bike deaths (and probably car deaths as well, as how many sedans are going to fare well against a car accident with this thing?).

vfclists 4y ago
Do you have an idea of how much carbon dioxide is expended in the production of the vehicle and its lithium batteries? How much of the energy used in the manufacturing of this vehicle and its batteries comes from "clean" sources? So called SUVs are no good for the environment and cities, EV or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo