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People suffering from psychosis can create "facts" supporting their ideas and believe in them. Usually it's the stuff like "someone follows me", "someone wants

by voytec 4y ago

People suffering from psychosis can create "facts" supporting their ideas and believe in them. Usually it's the stuff like "someone follows me", "someone wants to hurt me". Psychosis is the entry point to schizophrenia which is more or less, an illness in which brain makes stuff up and the ill person cannot differentiate facts from hallucinations. Possibly there was no defense contract at all.

IncRnd 4y ago
That sounds very much how chatgpt acts.
- yreg 4y ago
  Is it? GPT just halucinates the next words in a given text.
  - IncRnd 4y ago
    Of course it is. What in the parent's post is different from that? The parent post's first sentence is, "People suffering from psychosis can create 'facts' supporting their ideas and believe in them."
    - yreg 4y ago
      I don't think GPT believes something.
wpietri 4y ago
It's not just people suffering from psychosis who do that. "29% believe aliens exist and 21% believe a UFO crashed at Roswell in 1947. [...] 5% of respondents believe that Paul McCartney died and was secretly replaced in the Beatles in 1966, and just 4% believe shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form and gaining power. 7% of voters think the moon landing was fake." -- https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/... "Belief in both ghosts and U.F.O's has increased slightly since October 2007, by two and five percentage points, respectively. Men are more likely than women to believe in U.F.Os (43% men, 35% women), while women are more likely to believe in ghosts (41% women, 32% men) and spells or witchcraft (26% women, 15% men)." -- https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/belief-in-ghosts-2021 https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/belief-in-ghosts-2021 "A new Associated Press-GfK poll shows that 77 percent of adults believe [angels] are real. [...] belief in angels is fairly widespread even among the less religious. A majority of non-Christians think angels exist, as do more than 4 in 10 of those who never attend religious services." -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-believe-in-angels/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-b...
- bombolo 4y ago
  If we go that way, a lot more believe god exists!
- cma 4y ago
  "Belief" or stated belief to an anon survey?
- ridgered4 4y ago
  The other day some one mentioned any of these surveys consistently have about a 5% troll rate. The 77% belief in angels is bizarre though. Like I believe in the possibility of aliens, the universe is quite large. Although I think all spacecraft sightings are almost certainly just mundane stuff from spy planes to weather balloons, etc. I even believe in the possibility of ghosts being real, more likely some strange phenomenon we can't explain that we might misidentify as ghosts. But angels? One man's angel is another man's ghost or alien though I guess.
  - wardedVibe 4y ago
    if you buy into god, angels are on par with aliens, possibly even more probably present.
    - Dove 4y ago
      Indeed. According to [1], it would appear 58% of the US officially believes in angels by creed (Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, Orthodox, Jewish, or Muslim). Only 11% are atheist or agnostic, and there's a 30% group that's religious but "unaffiliated" or "other". I totally buy that two thirds of "religious but unaffiliated or other" would believe in angels. The difference here is that to the religious mind, angels are credible in a way that UFOs, ghosts, and magic are not. (The irreligious mind probably finds them all equally credible, hence the disconnect.) Put another way, it would not surprise me that someone who was "religious but not affiliated" might have a high regard for the Bible. Angels figure prominently in the Bible, and hence fall in that bucket. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_State...

by voytec 4y ago

IncRnd 4y ago

That sounds very much how chatgpt acts.

yreg 4y ago
Is it? GPT just halucinates the next words in a given text.
- IncRnd 4y ago
  Of course it is. What in the parent's post is different from that? The parent post's first sentence is, "People suffering from psychosis can create 'facts' supporting their ideas and believe in them."
  - yreg 4y ago
    I don't think GPT believes something.

wpietri 4y ago

It's not just people suffering from psychosis who do that. "29% believe aliens exist and 21% believe a UFO crashed at Roswell in 1947. [...] 5% of respondents believe that Paul McCartney died and was secretly replaced in the Beatles in 1966, and just 4% believe shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form and gaining power. 7% of voters think the moon landing was fake." -- https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/... "Belief in both ghosts and U.F.O's has increased slightly since October 2007, by two and five percentage points, respectively. Men are more likely than women to believe in U.F.Os (43% men, 35% women), while women are more likely to believe in ghosts (41% women, 32% men) and spells or witchcraft (26% women, 15% men)." -- https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/belief-in-ghosts-2021 https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/belief-in-ghosts-2021 "A new Associated Press-GfK poll shows that 77 percent of adults believe [angels] are real. [...] belief in angels is fairly widespread even among the less religious. A majority of non-Christians think angels exist, as do more than 4 in 10 of those who never attend religious services." -- https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-believe-in-angels/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-nearly-8-in-10-americans-b...

bombolo 4y ago
If we go that way, a lot more believe god exists!
cma 4y ago
"Belief" or stated belief to an anon survey?
ridgered4 4y ago
The other day some one mentioned any of these surveys consistently have about a 5% troll rate. The 77% belief in angels is bizarre though. Like I believe in the possibility of aliens, the universe is quite large. Although I think all spacecraft sightings are almost certainly just mundane stuff from spy planes to weather balloons, etc. I even believe in the possibility of ghosts being real, more likely some strange phenomenon we can't explain that we might misidentify as ghosts. But angels? One man's angel is another man's ghost or alien though I guess.
- wardedVibe 4y ago
  if you buy into god, angels are on par with aliens, possibly even more probably present.
  - Dove 4y ago
    Indeed. According to [1], it would appear 58% of the US officially believes in angels by creed (Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, Orthodox, Jewish, or Muslim). Only 11% are atheist or agnostic, and there's a 30% group that's religious but "unaffiliated" or "other". I totally buy that two thirds of "religious but unaffiliated or other" would believe in angels. The difference here is that to the religious mind, angels are credible in a way that UFOs, ghosts, and magic are not. (The irreligious mind probably finds them all equally credible, hence the disconnect.) Put another way, it would not surprise me that someone who was "religious but not affiliated" might have a high regard for the Bible. Angels figure prominently in the Bible, and hence fall in that bucket. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_State...